ABS Royalex Royalite durability question (age)

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:38:21 GMT, GaryJ <garyj DeleteThis @canada.com> wrote:

 >My Old Town Tripper is 15+ years old, and I know others that are about the same.
 >No problem with ABS if it is stored out of the sun.

Mine was old when I bought it in 1988. I even stored it in the sun.
It has been reconditioned by the people I gave it to in 1999 (though
it was still carrying me on many weekends per year. I had a newer and
prettier boat). I do advise keeping it out of the sun, but Old Towns
are really durable. If I'd had a clue, I'd have popped a tarp over it
on a frame, but by the time I knew about sun, it'd gone so many years
so well that I just let it be.
 >
 >Of course, you specify a Canadian garage, and that may be constructed to block
 >snow but not sun, although mine does both!
 >
 >GaryJ
 >
 >mraycraft wrote:
  >> Fellow paddlers;
  >> I have the opportunity to acquire a 10-year old Swift canoe made of
  >> Royalite. Apparently, it has been kept in a Canadian garage when not
  >> in use.
  >> Assuming that the boat is otherwise structurally sound, I am not sure
  >> what to expect in terms of durability of the material it is built
  >> with. Does Royalex/Royalite deteriorate noticeably over time? Put
  >> another way, would a 10-year old boat have lost anything solely due to
  >> age?

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 >Fellow paddlers;
 > would a 10-year old boat have lost anything solely due to
 > age?

michael

again the short answer is no.

my Old Town is 11 years old and except for some fading in the color is
as waterworthy as the day i brought it home. it has always been
outside about half of its years in direct sun.

Old Town only cautions about covering Oltanar/Royalex with a tarp and
storing under direct sun light. that WILL deteriorate the ABS as the
tarp acts like an oven and will cause the substrate to seperate.

if this boat has been garaged and is otherwise sound, buy it.
otherwise sound does not include the seats or thwart. don't spend any
time worrying about their condition. they can be replaced relatively
inexpensively.
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cyli.DeleteThis@tiny.net.invalid wrote in message news:<bf3ke09veov2pa72jn898i19nf9185ek13.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
 > On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:38:21 GMT, GaryJ <garyj.DeleteThis@canada.com> wrote:
 >
 > If I'd had a clue, I'd have popped a tarp over it
 > on a frame, but by the time I knew about sun, it'd gone so many years
 > so well that I just let it be.

Tarps are never a good idea over Oltanar / Royalex, even if on a
frame. They act like an oven and can separate the layers of ABS.

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Doug Braxton wrote:
 > cyli.DeleteThis@tiny.net.invalid wrote in message news:<bf3ke09veov2pa72jn898i19nf9185ek13.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
 >
  >>On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:38:21 GMT, GaryJ <garyj.DeleteThis@canada.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> If I'd had a clue, I'd have popped a tarp over it
  >>on a frame, but by the time I knew about sun, it'd gone so many years
  >>so well that I just let it be.
 >
 >
 > Tarps are never a good idea over Oltanar / Royalex, even if on a
 > frame. They act like an oven and can separate the layers of ABS.
 >
 > Better just to leave it in full sun

I'm presuming the frame would be designed to allow air to circulate
under the tarp in which case it's hard to see how the covering could be
harmful. My skin sure feels a lot cooler and more comfortable under a
tarp when on a hot beach without other source of shade and I'd expect
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:17:41 -0700, Peter <prathman.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:

 >Doug Braxton wrote:
  >> cyli.TakeThisOut@tiny.net.invalid wrote in message news:<bf3ke09veov2pa72jn898i19nf9185ek13.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
  >>
   >>>On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:38:21 GMT, GaryJ <garyj.TakeThisOut@canada.com> wrote:
   >>>
   >>> If I'd had a clue, I'd have popped a tarp over it
   >>>on a frame, but by the time I knew about sun, it'd gone so many years
   >>>so well that I just let it be.
  >>
  >>
  >> Tarps are never a good idea over Oltanar / Royalex, even if on a
  >> frame. They act like an oven and can separate the layers of ABS.
  >>
  >> Better just to leave it in full sun
 >
 >I'm presuming the frame would be designed to allow air to circulate
 >under the tarp in which case it's hard to see how the covering could be
 >harmful.

Yep. I know what a tarp directly _on_ stuff can do.


 >My skin sure feels a lot cooler and more comfortable under a
 >tarp when on a hot beach without other source of shade and I'd expect
 >the skin of my canoe or kayak to also stay cooler and UV-protected.

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