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Ewan Scott

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:04 pm
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>Beyond
> that I'm very happy to learn skills but have very limited interest in
> owning a piece of paper that tells me what I'm capable of doing.
>
Maybe that's a cue for a new thread... Smile

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Allan Bennett

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:13 pm
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In article <dg8okh$5ep$1@dux.dundee.ac.uk>, Peter Clinch
<URL:mailto:p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
> Ewan Scott wrote:
>
> > Unecessary implies not needed at all. I'd argue that isn't the case, but
> > then I'm not doing placid water nowadays.
>
> Fair comment, and we're down to semantics in a way. I always have a cag
> with me, but having said that I always had a cag with me when I first
> started. It was the Peter Storm pullover smock I had in the cubs/scouts
> for keeping the rain off and just about everyone has something equally
> good (well, just about everyone who's going to want to take up
> paddling...) they can use to keep the worst off and see if they like
> paddling before they spend £50+ on a twin waisted cag with serious seals
> that won't be much use for anything bar paddling.

....actually... I would find such a thing useless for paddling in!

Fine for sitting around in and posing, in mid-winter, maybe. But sitting
around in a boat in mid-winter is not canoeing, IMO.

Wear a (lightweight!) cag for the warm-up and remove it for the session.


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Allan Bennett

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:23 pm
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In article <dg8u03$771$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Muzz
<URL:mailto:spamfrog@swanlake.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Allan Bennett wrote:
>
> > Therein lies the problem with all the recommendations for
> > kit for a beginner! None of you have stated that you are
> > recommending stuff for specialist and possibly extreme
> > forms of canoeing - to a beginner!. Most of the kit you
> > advocate is unnecessary and expensive. It is also
> > restrictive and limits the enjoyment of paddling, IMO.
>
> I am a beginner, doing my two star training, before getting in the boat we
> must put on the kit the coaches lay out, BA, Cag and Helmet. They also
> recommend the long john wetsuit. There were six coaches there and guess
> what they were wearing ? I am a beginner, but I am happy to go along with
> the coaches recommendations. I done three eskimo recues last night and
> felt nice and warm in my wetsuit, one of the girls wearing a pair of
> shorts was complaining about the cold on her first tip over. Not too
> specialist or extreme, I felt good enough to get out of the boat and swim
> it to shore at the end of the session.

That is, of course, not canoeing.


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Peter Clinch

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:34 pm
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Allan Bennett wrote:
> In article <dg8okh$5ep$1@dux.dundee.ac.uk>, Peter Clinch
> <URL:mailto:p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:

>>paddling before they spend £50+ on a twin waisted cag with serious seals
>>that won't be much use for anything bar paddling.

> ...actually... I would find such a thing useless for paddling in!

The difference between commission and omission... nobody would have much
use for a twin waisted whitewater cag except /some/ paddlers, /some/ of
the time... Wink

Pete.
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Peter Clinch

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:20 am
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Allan Bennett wrote:

> That is, of course, not canoeing.

OTOH nor is ball control, but a canoe polo player that can't do that is
worthless. Similarly, a sea paddler that can't navigate could use
superlative paddling technique to disappear speedily and efficiently off
past his intended landing and on towards the mid-Atlantic and consequent
death, and so on. The secondary stuff can make a very appreciative
difference too, and is worth some serious thought.

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:49 pm
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Allan Bennett wrote:
session.
>
> That is, of course, not canoeing.
>
>
> Allan Bennett
> Not a fan of blinkers


Quite right but the OP didn'y mention whether he was interested in Canoeing
or Kayaking, just paddling.

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:52 pm
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Peter Clinch wrote:
> Muzz wrote:
>
>> I am a beginner, doing my two star training
>
> Define "beginner"... it would be fair to take it to mean
> "has never been in a boat before", or just two or three
> times. Rather lower than prospective 2* in terms of
> experience.

The OP wasn't too specific so I felt that I could safely volunteer what I
had learn't as a beginner.


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Charlie3

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:01 pm
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My sidewinder cag - whitewater and surf. I'm not very good and go over
alot, and like to stay warm and dry!

Charlie.

"Keith Meredith" <merry050.DeleteThis@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "Keith Meredith" <merry050.DeleteThis@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:dfneum$lc3$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > What kit would you advise a new paddler to spend money on?
> >
> > Keith
> >
>
> Fantastic - a thread more than 5 posts long - now, what's the bit of kit
> (apart from boat and paddle!) that you wouldn't set out without... and
> please state discipline - sea, surf, whitewater, touring, etc.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Keith
>
>
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