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willv

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:33 pm
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I have heard that no one is allowed to build new boat houses on lake
simcoe anymore. Does anyone know if that is true?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:16 am
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Yes,
Sadly it is true. The Ontario government will no longer allow any newly
constructed "wetslip" boathouses on any inland waterways. There was some
discussion not too long ago about a possible change to this law but I don't
believe any has been made.
The only legal provision still active is repairs/renovations to existing
structures classified as "legal non-conforming," then you may do repairs
with the proper permits.

regards
Bryan

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:52 am
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Do you know what constitutes a 'Webslip'?

We have an existing slip that extendes into our land. Our property is
surrounded by a concrete breakwall into and arround our slip. We are
also on a canal immediately off the lake.

If you know of any details on where to best check this, it would be
much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


"Bryan" <flyerboyz.DeleteThis@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<tk%jc.14064$huU.2388@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
 > Yes,
 > Sadly it is true. The Ontario government will no longer allow any newly
 > constructed "wetslip" boathouses on any inland waterways. There was some
 > discussion not too long ago about a possible change to this law but I don't
 > believe any has been made.
 > The only legal provision still active is repairs/renovations to existing
 > structures classified as "legal non-conforming," then you may do repairs
 > with the proper permits.
 >
 > regards
 > Bryan<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:45 am
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I think you meant wetslip...
What makes a boathouse a wetslip is simply the ability to drive the boat
into the garage similar to doing so in your car. To do this the shoreline
has a notch cut into it to facilitate a water garage pool.
You can check with your local municipality (whoever issues building
permits in Simcoe county, might even be them) about building on top of an
existing "cut-out" though you may find yourself jumping through hoops. When
we repaired ours (Pigeon lake, on the Trent) We had inspectors and permits
come from:

1/ Peterborough building inspectors office (1X)
2/ Lindsay building Inspections (2X)
3/ Ministry of the environment
4/ City of Kawartha Lakes (Letter of approval only)
5/ Fisheries and Wildlife Canada
6/ Transport Canada (Letter of approval only)
7/ F.O.T.S. (Letter of approval only)

In all, a simple repair. Total beaurocratic time wasted? 7 months. In
hindsight, I shouldn't have said anything to anyone and just did it quietly.

Bryan
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:36 am
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Min.of Nat. Resources have been known to take aerial photo's of "popular"
lakes with expensive houses and boathouses, which are used as cottages as
well(?), and every couple years they are being "compared" and infractions
are being checked and then charges are laid.
Also shoreline cannot be changed or re-arranged anymore! We have to take
care of the loons and other wildlife, who were there FIRST!
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"Bryan" <flyerboyz.DeleteThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:GZjkc.319333$2oI1.157127@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
: I think you meant wetslip...
: What makes a boathouse a wetslip is simply the ability to drive the
boat
: into the garage similar to doing so in your car. To do this the shoreline
: has a notch cut into it to facilitate a water garage pool.
: You can check with your local municipality (whoever issues building
: permits in Simcoe county, might even be them) about building on top of an
: existing "cut-out" though you may find yourself jumping through hoops.
When
: we repaired ours (Pigeon lake, on the Trent) We had inspectors and permits
: come from:
:
: 1/ Peterborough building inspectors office (1X)
: 2/ Lindsay building Inspections (2X)
: 3/ Ministry of the environment
: 4/ City of Kawartha Lakes (Letter of approval only)
: 5/ Fisheries and Wildlife Canada
: 6/ Transport Canada (Letter of approval only)
: 7/ F.O.T.S. (Letter of approval only)
:
: In all, a simple repair. Total beaurocratic time wasted? 7 months. In
: hindsight, I shouldn't have said anything to anyone and just did it
quietly.
:
: Bryan
:
:
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 9:21 pm
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You cant have your cake and eat it too Steve. Think about what you are
saying first. The use of overhead "spying" as it is commonly referred to has
been in use since the first world war. It has several practical applications
in engineering, geodetic survey and construction, though I agree the
potential is there to leave many feeling insecure and helpless as big
brother watches. I've always felt that if you have nothing to hide then you
should have nothing to fear. Someone is always watching...so what get over
it. Though I have speculated for quite some time this data is being used
against individuals, I somehow suspect the logistical implications would far
outweigh any potential gain by pursuing individual rule benders.
No, in actuality what the consensus is amongst us that do this type of
work is to keep an eye on corporate Canada/America. Too long have they
violated the earth that they have come to depend on for their raw materials
and very existence that this has now become the selected tool of choice for
the last decade or so, to make sure they are not doing or dumping anything
questionable unto the world the rest of us live in.
Several missions we surveyed were out in the middle of nowhere. Usually
all that was to be seen was a mining road and a defunct town. But that is
precisely where the corporate world goes when it can't go anywhere else,
secretly. How then would you suggest this type of surveillance work be done
then? If there is a better way and you care to share this information please
do so. If not, then you simply cannot sit back and expect the police to do
their jobs with one hand tied behind the backs, so in the same respect I
can't fault our governments for doing theirs.

Bryan
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 5:51 pm
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Steve:
"There is a big difference between reasonable regulation and an outright
ban..."

Define reasonable...
besides, it's not Toronto. It's Ottawa.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 8:30 am
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The government is really being cautious with permits to build, renovate,
modify, or do-just-about-anything anywhere near water since Walkerton.

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