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Tim11

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Since: Aug 22, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:47 am
Post subject: Deck fittings
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Hello,
I bought a space sailer 22 last week (for those that don't know this
is a 22 foot masthead fibreglass keelboat). I am looking to set the
boat up for racing but the previous few owners of the boat did not
race her so some of the fittings have disappered.

The main thing that was missing in terms of racing were the spinnaker
blocks on the gunwale near the stern (the blocks the spinnaker sheets
turn through before leaving to the pole and spinnaker). There were
however stainless steel saddles on each gunwale. These appear to be
through bolted with washers on the underside but no backing plate.

What I would like to know is if these saddles would be up to the job
of supporting the spinnaker sheet loads (I don't know for sure if that
is what they intended for originally)??

Assuming they were installed correctly would they be ok without a
backing plate??

Being new to owning a boat (I have sailed for years but never done
much maintenance) I want to make sure I am doing the right thing
before using them with the spinnnaker.

Thanks,
Tim

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M.L. Browne

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:23 pm
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Excellent questions.
without knowing the boat's construction specifications etc, it is impossible
to conclusively answer the question but....It is highly probable that you
don't need backup plates because you have washers under the deck. Do the
fittings look corroded? perhaps you should change the fittings and fasteners
and then add some blocks and try it out.
I am currently using Harken#168 for my spin blocks. They have been back
there for about 10 years and look faded but work like they are brand new.
The boat is a Sonar, 2100lb.

good luck.

 > From: harrit01.RemoveThis@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Tim)
<font color=purple> > Organization: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com</font" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com</font</a>>
 > Newsgroups: rec.boats.racing
 > Date: 22 Aug 2004 07:47:21 -0700
 > Subject: Deck fittings
 >
 > Hello,
 > I bought a space sailer 22 last week (for those that don't know this
 > is a 22 foot masthead fibreglass keelboat). I am looking to set the
 > boat up for racing but the previous few owners of the boat did not
 > race her so some of the fittings have disappered.
 >
 > The main thing that was missing in terms of racing were the spinnaker
 > blocks on the gunwale near the stern (the blocks the spinnaker sheets
 > turn through before leaving to the pole and spinnaker). There were
 > however stainless steel saddles on each gunwale. These appear to be
 > through bolted with washers on the underside but no backing plate.
 >
 > What I would like to know is if these saddles would be up to the job
 > of supporting the spinnaker sheet loads (I don't know for sure if that
 > is what they intended for originally)??
 >
 > Assuming they were installed correctly would they be ok without a
 > backing plate??
 >
 > Being new to owning a boat (I have sailed for years but never done
 > much maintenance) I want to make sure I am doing the right thing
 > before using them with the spinnnaker.
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Tim<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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hope1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:21 am
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The sort of loads the small kites a space sailer 22 carries washers should
be sufficient.
All spaceys are over built for the size of the boat they are and do not
carry a large amount of sail area


"Tim" <harrit01 RemoveThis @tartarus.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
news:8ae08fd0.0408220647.2a074662@posting.google.com...
 > Hello,
 > I bought a space sailer 22 last week (for those that don't know this
 > is a 22 foot masthead fibreglass keelboat). I am looking to set the
 > boat up for racing but the previous few owners of the boat did not
 > race her so some of the fittings have disappered.
 >
 > The main thing that was missing in terms of racing were the spinnaker
 > blocks on the gunwale near the stern (the blocks the spinnaker sheets
 > turn through before leaving to the pole and spinnaker). There were
 > however stainless steel saddles on each gunwale. These appear to be
 > through bolted with washers on the underside but no backing plate.
 >
 > What I would like to know is if these saddles would be up to the job
 > of supporting the spinnaker sheet loads (I don't know for sure if that
 > is what they intended for originally)??
 >
 > Assuming they were installed correctly would they be ok without a
 > backing plate??
 >
 > Being new to owning a boat (I have sailed for years but never done
 > much maintenance) I want to make sure I am doing the right thing
 > before using them with the spinnnaker.
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Tim<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Tim11

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:50 am
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You must be from Perth, I'm suprised someone actually knows what they are...

"J" <hope1.TakeThisOut@iinet.net.au> wrote in message news:<412b2069$0$22826$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
 > The sort of loads the small kites a space sailer 22 carries washers should
 > be sufficient.
 > All spaceys are over built for the size of the boat they are and do not
 > carry a large amount of sail area
 >
 >
 > "Tim" <harrit01.TakeThisOut@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
 > news:8ae08fd0.0408220647.2a074662@posting.google.com...
  > > Hello,
  > > I bought a space sailer 22 last week (for those that don't know this
  > > is a 22 foot masthead fibreglass keelboat). I am looking to set the
  > > boat up for racing but the previous few owners of the boat did not
  > > race her so some of the fittings have disappered.
  > >
  > > The main thing that was missing in terms of racing were the spinnaker
  > > blocks on the gunwale near the stern (the blocks the spinnaker sheets
  > > turn through before leaving to the pole and spinnaker). There were
  > > however stainless steel saddles on each gunwale. These appear to be
  > > through bolted with washers on the underside but no backing plate.
  > >
  > > What I would like to know is if these saddles would be up to the job
  > > of supporting the spinnaker sheet loads (I don't know for sure if that
  > > is what they intended for originally)??
  > >
  > > Assuming they were installed correctly would they be ok without a
  > > backing plate??
  > >
  > > Being new to owning a boat (I have sailed for years but never done
  > > much maintenance) I want to make sure I am doing the right thing
  > > before using them with the spinnnaker.
  > >
  > > Thanks,
  > > Tim<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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SAIL LOCO

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:21 pm
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By saddles do you mean pad eyes? The best blocks to use for spinnaker control
are Harken ratchet blocks. They come in port and stb so the button/switch is
always facing up. They will allow the trimmer to trim without using a winch in
all but heavy air.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"
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Roy Smith

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:05 pm
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In article <20040827134701.22153.00002390.RemoveThis@mb-m07.aol.com>,
sailloco.RemoveThis@aol.com (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

 > The best blocks to use for spinnaker control are Harken ratchet
 > blocks. They come in port and stb so the button/switch is always
 > facing up. They will allow the trimmer to trim without using a winch
 > in all but heavy air.

 > S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
 > "Trains are a winter sport"

Even better, are the new carbo ratchamatic blocks. There's no switch;
the ratchet engages whenever there's more than a certain amount of
tension on the line (settable with a screw adjustment). Absolutely
magic. I've been using them for spin turning blocks on my J/24 for a
couple of years, and I'm thinking of replacing my jib blocks with them
too.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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hope1

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:21 am
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Sure am.
South of Perth YC is the place to go if you want to have a look at any other
spacey 22's, they have a pretty active fleet of them these days.
The Spacesailer range of boats were designed by Swarbrick, who is a WA
local, that is why no one else appears to know anything about them not many
were ever sold any where else, the 27's are the only model i have ever seen
interstate and they are usually for sale for ridiculous price tags.


"Tim" <harrit01.TakeThisOut@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
news:8ae08fd0.0408250150.7b15f3ae@posting.google.com...
 > You must be from Perth, I'm suprised someone actually knows what they
are...
 >
 > "J" <hope1.TakeThisOut@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:<412b2069$0$22826$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
  > > The sort of loads the small kites a space sailer 22 carries washers
should
  > > be sufficient.
  > > All spaceys are over built for the size of the boat they are and do not
  > > carry a large amount of sail area
  > >
  > >
  > > "Tim" <harrit01.TakeThisOut@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
  > > news:8ae08fd0.0408220647.2a074662@posting.google.com...
   > > > Hello,
   > > > I bought a space sailer 22 last week (for those that don't know this
   > > > is a 22 foot masthead fibreglass keelboat). I am looking to set the
   > > > boat up for racing but the previous few owners of the boat did not
   > > > race her so some of the fittings have disappered.
   > > >
   > > > The main thing that was missing in terms of racing were the spinnaker
   > > > blocks on the gunwale near the stern (the blocks the spinnaker sheets
   > > > turn through before leaving to the pole and spinnaker). There were
   > > > however stainless steel saddles on each gunwale. These appear to be
   > > > through bolted with washers on the underside but no backing plate.
   > > >
   > > > What I would like to know is if these saddles would be up to the job
   > > > of supporting the spinnaker sheet loads (I don't know for sure if that
   > > > is what they intended for originally)??
   > > >
   > > > Assuming they were installed correctly would they be ok without a
   > > > backing plate??
   > > >
   > > > Being new to owning a boat (I have sailed for years but never done
   > > > much maintenance) I want to make sure I am doing the right thing
   > > > before using them with the spinnnaker.
   > > >
   > > > Thanks,
   > > > Tim<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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