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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:49 pm
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"One day, high above Arizona, we were monitoring the radio traffic of
all the mortal airplanes below us. First, a Cessna pilot asked the air
traffic controllers to check his ground speed. 'Ninety knots,' ATC
replied. A twin Bonanza soon made the same request. 'One-twenty on the
ground,' was the reply. To our surprise, a navy F-18 came over the
radio with a ground speed check. I knew exactly what he was doing. Of
course, he had a ground speed indicator in his cockpit, but he wanted
to let all the bug-smashers in the valley know what real speed was
'Dusty 52, we show you at 525 on the ground,' ATC responded. The
situation was too ripe. I heard the click of Walter's mike button in
the rear seat. In his most innocent voice, Walter startled the
controller by asking for a ground speed check from 81,000 feet,
clearly above controlled airspace. In a cool, professional voice, the
controller replied, 'Aspen 20, I show you at 1,742 knots on the
ground.' We did not hear another transmission on that frequency all
the way to the coast."
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:49:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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>"One day, high above Arizona, we were monitoring the radio traffic of
>all the mortal airplanes below us. First, a Cessna pilot asked the air
>traffic controllers to check his ground speed. 'Ninety knots,' ATC
>replied. A twin Bonanza soon made the same request. 'One-twenty on the
>ground,' was the reply. To our surprise, a navy F-18 came over the
>radio with a ground speed check. I knew exactly what he was doing. Of
>course, he had a ground speed indicator in his cockpit, but he wanted
>to let all the bug-smashers in the valley know what real speed was
>'Dusty 52, we show you at 525 on the ground,' ATC responded. The
>situation was too ripe. I heard the click of Walter's mike button in
>the rear seat. In his most innocent voice, Walter startled the
>controller by asking for a ground speed check from 81,000 feet,
>clearly above controlled airspace. In a cool, professional voice, the
>controller replied, 'Aspen 20, I show you at 1,742 knots on the
>ground.' We did not hear another transmission on that frequency all
>the way to the coast."
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>http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/7821-Major-Brian-Shul-I-loved-that-jet.html
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:49 pm
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On Mar 9, 8:07 pm, "Eisboch" <r... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> "John H." <jherringnumerical... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
> > --
> > John
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> There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
> Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.
>
> http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/
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> Eisboch
I was watching a doc. on some Marvel Channel, abotu the blackbird, and
it was fascenating to hear that pilots were asked why they didnt' ahve
any armaments. "Well, when you're flying higher and faster than a
missle can reach you, then what would be the point? Besides, we're
flying faster than a 30.06 calibre bullet, so a gun would be usless."
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:49 pm
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On Mar 9, 10:16 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em....RemoveThis@swsportsremove.org>
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> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:01:12 GMT, Steve <st....RemoveThis@example.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:20:41 -0500, John H.
> ><jherringnumerical....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >>And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
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> >I was just there. Here's a few pics of the SR-71 they have there:
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> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udvar_hazy/sets/72157604081139456/show/
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> >It's a tough place to photograph since it's kind of dark in a lot of
> >areas. If you're interested in seeing more pics from there, here they
> >are:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udvar_hazy/show/
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> >These pictures capture only a small percentage of what's there. It's
> >well worth the trip for any aviation buff.
>
> If you are ever in New England, a must see if you are into aircraft is
> the New England Air Museum in East Granby, CT at Bradley
> International.
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> http://www.neam.org/exhibits/collections.asp
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> Some really interesting aircraft and engines there - mostly restored
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Wow, that sparks some weird memories. I was fresh out of high school
and I took a night job there as a guard at the ANG base. We were
trouble makers to say the least, lucky we are not all in jail;) I used
to let my buds in at night and we would sit up on top of the Quanset
building they had there and get plastered and watch the planes come
and go. Then when we were sufficiently, er, um, crocked, we would go
down and take out the plane haulers carts, forget what they called
them, and race around the parking lots and north side of the airport;)
I am pretty sure the mechanics knew, but they never said anything,
guess it was hard to find someone to do the job. There was this high
brass, don't remember his rank, that was stationed at Westover and
stayed down at the chopper base sometimes. I had to wake him at 5 am.
There was a special broom next to the door and I was warned by him and
a couple other guys, in fact I would say more trained to come quietly
into the room and sweep his feet with the broom, as soon as he sat up
or stirred I was to back out of the room quickly. I trusted these guys
and even though I figured they could be fooling, I did it the way they
told me to. Damn if the guy did not wake up swinging, just like they
said, every time. All they told me was "he was in Nam". I never asked
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:07 pm
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:07:15 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
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>> And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
>> --
>> John
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>There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
>Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.
>
>http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/
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>Eisboch
>
Cool. I've been to San Diego many times (30 years ago), but didn't even
know about that museum.
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:40:01 -0000, thunder DeleteThis @TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:49:11 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
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>> http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/7821-Major-Brian-Shul-I-
>loved-that-jet.html
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>That's one special plane. I don't know how true it is, but I read
>somewhere that the SR-71, once ran out of fuel over Tennessee, and still
>managed to land safely at it's base in Texas. Kelly Johnson's Skunk
>Works did some amazing development, quickly too.
I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but it detailed the SR-71
and U-2 programs. Came out a couple of years ago. That story about
the SR-71 losing fuel is true. There was also one about a U-2 that
was returning from a mission over Soviet Russia and ran out of fuel
over Anchorage only to land at Nellis AFB. They figured the glide
path at altitude with the U-2 could have taken them as far south as
Luke or Williams AFB in Arizona. :>)
I remember during the first Tet Offensive, we were at Bein Hoa AFB on
a lay over when the fecal matter started raining down. We were put on
temporary assignment to reinforce the "black" hanger where the U-2
planes were until a "special unit" could arrive and take over
security. I got a look at one up close and it was freakin' huge - not
massive, but just plain huge - the wing span was amazing.
The really interesting this were the chase vehicles - Chevy ElCamino
SS 396s.
Those CIA guys really knew how to live right. :>)
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:10:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.DeleteThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:40:01 -0000, thunder.DeleteThis@TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:49:11 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/7821-Major-Brian-Shul-I-
>>loved-that-jet.html
>>
>>That's one special plane. I don't know how true it is, but I read
>>somewhere that the SR-71, once ran out of fuel over Tennessee, and still
>>managed to land safely at it's base in Texas. Kelly Johnson's Skunk
>>Works did some amazing development, quickly too.
>
>I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but it detailed the SR-71
>and U-2 programs. Came out a couple of years ago. That story about
>the SR-71 losing fuel is true. There was also one about a U-2 that
>was returning from a mission over Soviet Russia and ran out of fuel
>over Anchorage only to land at Nellis AFB. They figured the glide
>path at altitude with the U-2 could have taken them as far south as
>Luke or Williams AFB in Arizona. :>)
>
>I remember during the first Tet Offensive, we were at Bein Hoa AFB on
>a lay over when the fecal matter started raining down. We were put on
>temporary assignment to reinforce the "black" hanger where the U-2
>planes were until a "special unit" could arrive and take over
>security. I got a look at one up close and it was freakin' huge - not
>massive, but just plain huge - the wing span was amazing.
>
>The really interesting this were the chase vehicles - Chevy ElCamino
>SS 396s.
>
>Those CIA guys really knew how to live right. :>)
Did you ever make it to the Special Forces Club at Bien Hoa? Put down a lot
of beer staring at the infrared image of Ann Margaret in that place!
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:36 am
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:23:20 -0500, John H.
<jherringnumericalone RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:10:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
><email RemoveThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:40:01 -0000, thunder RemoveThis @TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:49:11 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/7821-Major-Brian-Shul-I-
>>>loved-that-jet.html
>>>
>>>That's one special plane. I don't know how true it is, but I read
>>>somewhere that the SR-71, once ran out of fuel over Tennessee, and still
>>>managed to land safely at it's base in Texas. Kelly Johnson's Skunk
>>>Works did some amazing development, quickly too.
>>
>>I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but it detailed the SR-71
>>and U-2 programs. Came out a couple of years ago. That story about
>>the SR-71 losing fuel is true. There was also one about a U-2 that
>>was returning from a mission over Soviet Russia and ran out of fuel
>>over Anchorage only to land at Nellis AFB. They figured the glide
>>path at altitude with the U-2 could have taken them as far south as
>>Luke or Williams AFB in Arizona. :>)
>>
>>I remember during the first Tet Offensive, we were at Bein Hoa AFB on
>>a lay over when the fecal matter started raining down. We were put on
>>temporary assignment to reinforce the "black" hanger where the U-2
>>planes were until a "special unit" could arrive and take over
>>security. I got a look at one up close and it was freakin' huge - not
>>massive, but just plain huge - the wing span was amazing.
>>
>>The really interesting this were the chase vehicles - Chevy ElCamino
>>SS 396s.
>>
>>Those CIA guys really knew how to live right. :>)
>
>Did you ever make it to the Special Forces Club at Bien Hoa? Put down a lot
>of beer staring at the infrared image of Ann Margaret in that place!
Never got there, although I remember stories of the picture.
We didn't have a lot of time at Bein Hoa. When the CIA security guys
showed up from Saigon, we were put in support of a Air Police
detachment chasing the NVA off the base. After that, as soon as they
could get us out of there and back to Danang, they did.
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:36:57 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:23:20 -0500, John H.
><jherringnumericalone.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:10:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
>><email.TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:40:01 -0000, thunder.TakeThisOut@TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:49:11 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/7821-Major-Brian-Shul-I-
>>>>loved-that-jet.html
>>>>
>>>>That's one special plane. I don't know how true it is, but I read
>>>>somewhere that the SR-71, once ran out of fuel over Tennessee, and still
>>>>managed to land safely at it's base in Texas. Kelly Johnson's Skunk
>>>>Works did some amazing development, quickly too.
>>>
>>>I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but it detailed the SR-71
>>>and U-2 programs. Came out a couple of years ago. That story about
>>>the SR-71 losing fuel is true. There was also one about a U-2 that
>>>was returning from a mission over Soviet Russia and ran out of fuel
>>>over Anchorage only to land at Nellis AFB. They figured the glide
>>>path at altitude with the U-2 could have taken them as far south as
>>>Luke or Williams AFB in Arizona. :>)
>>>
>>>I remember during the first Tet Offensive, we were at Bein Hoa AFB on
>>>a lay over when the fecal matter started raining down. We were put on
>>>temporary assignment to reinforce the "black" hanger where the U-2
>>>planes were until a "special unit" could arrive and take over
>>>security. I got a look at one up close and it was freakin' huge - not
>>>massive, but just plain huge - the wing span was amazing.
>>>
>>>The really interesting this were the chase vehicles - Chevy ElCamino
>>>SS 396s.
>>>
>>>Those CIA guys really knew how to live right. :>)
>>
>>Did you ever make it to the Special Forces Club at Bien Hoa? Put down a lot
>>of beer staring at the infrared image of Ann Margaret in that place!
>
>Never got there, although I remember stories of the picture.
>
>We didn't have a lot of time at Bein Hoa. When the CIA security guys
>showed up from Saigon, we were put in support of a Air Police
>detachment chasing the NVA off the base. After that, as soon as they
>could get us out of there and back to Danang, they did.
>
>It was safer. :>)
I'll say this - it took more than sirens to get those SF guys to leave a
pitcher of beer on the table. If the damn building wasn't shaking, they
stayed and drank. What a rip.
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:23:20 -0500, John H.
> <jherringnumericalone.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:10:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
>> <email.TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:40:01 -0000, thunder.TakeThisOut@TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:49:11 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/7821-Major-Brian-Shul-I-
>>>> loved-that-jet.html
>>>>
>>>> That's one special plane. I don't know how true it is, but I read
>>>> somewhere that the SR-71, once ran out of fuel over Tennessee, and still
>>>> managed to land safely at it's base in Texas. Kelly Johnson's Skunk
>>>> Works did some amazing development, quickly too.
>>> I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but it detailed the SR-71
>>> and U-2 programs. Came out a couple of years ago. That story about
>>> the SR-71 losing fuel is true. There was also one about a U-2 that
>>> was returning from a mission over Soviet Russia and ran out of fuel
>>> over Anchorage only to land at Nellis AFB. They figured the glide
>>> path at altitude with the U-2 could have taken them as far south as
>>> Luke or Williams AFB in Arizona. :>)
>>>
>>> I remember during the first Tet Offensive, we were at Bein Hoa AFB on
>>> a lay over when the fecal matter started raining down. We were put on
>>> temporary assignment to reinforce the "black" hanger where the U-2
>>> planes were until a "special unit" could arrive and take over
>>> security. I got a look at one up close and it was freakin' huge - not
>>> massive, but just plain huge - the wing span was amazing.
>>>
>>> The really interesting this were the chase vehicles - Chevy ElCamino
>>> SS 396s.
>>>
>>> Those CIA guys really knew how to live right. :>)
>> Did you ever make it to the Special Forces Club at Bien Hoa? Put down a lot
>> of beer staring at the infrared image of Ann Margaret in that place!
>
> Never got there, although I remember stories of the picture.
>
> We didn't have a lot of time at Bein Hoa. When the CIA security guys
> showed up from Saigon, we were put in support of a Air Police
> detachment chasing the NVA off the base. After that, as soon as they
> could get us out of there and back to Danang, they did.
>
> It was safer. :>)
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:07:15 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
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>"John H." <jherringnumericalone.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
>> --
>> John
>
>
>
>There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
>Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.
>
>http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/
There's also one at the Air Force Armament Museum at Eglin Air Force
Base in Florida. I was there a couple of years ago. Interesting
place.
http://www.afarmamentmuseum.com/outside.shtml
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>>And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
>
>I was just there. Here's a few pics of the SR-71 they have there:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udvar_hazy/sets/72157604081139456/show/
>
>It's a tough place to photograph since it's kind of dark in a lot of
>areas. If you're interested in seeing more pics from there, here they
>are:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udvar_hazy/show/
>
>These pictures capture only a small percentage of what's there. It's
>well worth the trip for any aviation buff.
If you are ever in New England, a must see if you are into aircraft is
the New England Air Museum in East Granby, CT at Bradley
International.
http://www.neam.org/exhibits/collections.asp
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