Handicapping Iowa...

On Jan 2, 8:41 am, DownTime <DownTim....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> > Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>
> > Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
> > else.
>
> > I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
> > Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
> > within a point or two.  Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
> > all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>
> > Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
> > Huckabee and Thompson a strong third.  Ron Paultard will show a
> > surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
> > other states.
>
> > Now I need to call my bookie.  :>)
>
> Your bookie is taking action on the primaries? That is sad. I'm assuming
> even the bookies are also it hard by the current real estate slump.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So, what is the difference between a slump and a logical correction?
Does it depend on who is in the Whitehouse??
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justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 2, 8:41 am, DownTime <DownTim....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>>> else.
>>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>>> other states.
>>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>> Your bookie is taking action on the primaries? That is sad. I'm assuming
>> even the bookies are also it hard by the current real estate slump.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> So, what is the difference between a slump and a logical correction?
> Does it depend on who is in the Whitehouse??

I guess it depends on one's perspective. I see it as more a logical
correction, as the prices, especially here in SW Florida were just plain
ridiculous. Slump could be used to describe it by anyone who maybe has
suffered financially, which thankfully does not include me directly.

Not sure I am smart enough to know exactly who may be at fault, besides
I doubt everyone else but me cares about my opinion.
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:48:47 -0500, DownTime <DownTime61.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I guess it depends on one's perspective. I see it as more a logical
>correction, as the prices, especially here in SW Florida were just plain
>ridiculous. Slump could be used to describe it by anyone who maybe has
>suffered financially, which thankfully does not include me directly.
>
>Not sure I am smart enough to know exactly who may be at fault, besides
>I doubt everyone else but me cares about my opinion.

You are overlooking the root cause of inflated SWFL prices in the
first place: Easy lending standards which encouraged/fueled rampant
speculation. That started in the mid to late 90s and continued until
this year. The bubble began to burst 2 years ago after hurricane
Wilma convinced a lot of people to sell, and dried up the buyer pool.
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.TakeThisOut@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>
> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
> else.
>
> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>
> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
> other states.
>
> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)


Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
> news:v82nn3dnv66gafh0uvkn4ufv2i3j620gq9@4ax.com...
>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>
>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>> else.
>>
>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>
>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>> other states.
>>
>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>
>
> Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.
>
>

I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and I
agree he has a spine, but...

I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the torture
issue.
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On Jan 2, 7:00�am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "HK" <payer33....DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>
> news:5u1k8vF1f4cclU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em....DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
> >>news:v82nn3dnv66gafh0uvkn4ufv2i3j620gq9@4ax.com...
> >>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>
> >>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
> >>> else.
>
> >>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
> >>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
> >>> within a point or two. �Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
> >>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>
> >>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
> >>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. �Ron Paultard will show a
> >>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
> >>> other states.
>
> >>> Now I need to call my bookie. �:>)
>
> >> Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.
>
> > I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and I agree
> > he has a spine, but...
>
> > I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the torture
> > issue.
>
> Everyone caved on the torture issue to some extent. It was unavoidable. And,
> to be perfectly honest, I played a New Year's Eve gig that made
> waterboarding look like a wine tasting tour in France.
>
> McCain was interviewed a couple of weeks ago and he made a comment about
> using the bully pulpit to ask Americans to consider certain sacrifices, the
> details of which are not important here. FDR did exactly the same thing, and
> Americans accepted his suggestions. Nowadays, mention this to certain
> lizards in newsgroups and they say "guvmint control! guvmint control!"
>
> If McCain actually does it, I'd be impressed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

None of the major party candidates ever really reflect my personal
political principles, and that's good. My perspectives are too extreme
to be useful for the Executive of a country that needs to enlist a
variety of people with diverse ideas and agendas in order to get
anything done.
We've all seen the effects of various "uniters" vs. "dividers" in the
WH.
I believe it's better to have a person who can reach across the aisle
in both directions for support.

That reduces me to voting for personal character. I'm absolutely
opposed to his politics, (fortuntately we're going to elect a POTUS,
not a dictator), but from the perspective of character and personal
integrity
John McCain is definitely a front runner. Yeah, we would have to
overlook some past mistakes, but the only guy without a skeleton or
two in the closet is a guy who never accomplished anything.

I admire John McCain for standing up for fellow veteran and fellow
senator John Kerry when Kerry was being smeared and slandered by the
Swift Boaters in '04. McCain knew that the chrages were a combination
of distortion and unbridled BS, and wasn't afraid to say so. To me,
that indicates a preference for truth above partisan politics. That
stand, and some similar over the years, is probably what will cost
McCain any chance to win the R nomination. A candidate needs to appeal
to the party fanatics during the primaries, and then switch gears and
appeal to the center after the conventions. The R party fanatics don't
like McCain all that much- but he would appeal to most of the folks in
the middle. At least IMO.
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HK wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.TakeThisOut@swsports.org> wrote in message
>> news:v82nn3dnv66gafh0uvkn4ufv2i3j620gq9@4ax.com...
>>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>>
>>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>>> else.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>>
>>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>>> other states.
>>>
>>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.
>>
>
> I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and I
> agree he has a spine, but...
>
> I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the torture
> issue.

McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone to jail
with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then and is crooked now.

McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do good.
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 05:47:17 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


> So, what is the difference between a slump and a logical correction?
> Does it depend on who is in the Whitehouse??

Perhaps, if Republicans hadn't gutted the Glass-Steagall Act we wouldn't
have had this sub-prime fiasco. But you are right, Clinton did sign the
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:VJMej.1287$Sa1.363@news02.roc.ny...
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
> news:v82nn3dnv66gafh0uvkn4ufv2i3j620gq9@4ax.com...
>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>
>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>> else.
>>
>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>
>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>> other states.
>>
>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>
>
> Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.

Why McCain? I view him as having too many back room allegiances and special
interests to be any good. But then again, I can't vote -- just curious on
US politics. Kind of like Ron Paul myself.
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BAR wrote:
> HK wrote:
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email DeleteThis @swsports.org> wrote in message
>>> news:v82nn3dnv66gafh0uvkn4ufv2i3j620gq9@4ax.com...
>>>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>>>
>>>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>>>> else.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>>>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>>>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>>>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>>>
>>>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>>>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>>>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>>>> other states.
>>>>
>>>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>>>
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.
>>>
>>
>> I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and I
>> agree he has a spine, but...
>>
>> I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the
>> torture issue.
>
> McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone to jail
> with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then and is crooked now.
>
> McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do good.


Geez...you're such an *angry* little scheisskopf...


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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:41:29 -0500, DownTime <DownTime61.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>
>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>> else.
>>
>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>
>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>> other states.
>>
>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>
>Your bookie is taking action on the primaries? That is sad. I'm assuming
>even the bookies are also it hard by the current real estate slump.

You do realize that gambling on political elections is a time honored
sport in Europe right?

The right bookie will be able to place the bet somewhere.

However, it was a rhetorical statement - I'm not much of a gambler.

Until the NCAA basketball tournament comes around that is. :>)
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"HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
>> news:v82nn3dnv66gafh0uvkn4ufv2i3j620gq9@4ax.com...
>>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>>
>>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>>> else.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>>
>>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>>> other states.
>>>
>>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.
>
> I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and I agree
> he has a spine, but...
>
> I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the torture
> issue.


Everyone caved on the torture issue to some extent. It was unavoidable. And,
to be perfectly honest, I played a New Year's Eve gig that made
waterboarding look like a wine tasting tour in France.

McCain was interviewed a couple of weeks ago and he made a comment about
using the bully pulpit to ask Americans to consider certain sacrifices, the
details of which are not important here. FDR did exactly the same thing, and
Americans accepted his suggestions. Nowadays, mention this to certain
lizards in newsgroups and they say "guvmint control! guvmint control!"

If McCain actually does it, I'd be impressed.
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HK wrote:
> BAR wrote:
>> HK wrote:
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:v82nn3dnv66gafh0uvkn4ufv2i3j620gq9@4ax.com...
>>>>> Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
>>>>> else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
>>>>> Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
>>>>> within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
>>>>> all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.
>>>>>
>>>>> Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
>>>>> Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
>>>>> surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
>>>>> other states.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I need to call my bookie. :>)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and I
>>> agree he has a spine, but...
>>>
>>> I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the
>>> torture issue.
>>
>> McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone to
>> jail with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then and is
>> crooked now.
>>
>> McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do good.
>
>
> Geez...you're such an *angry* little scheisskopf...

Not angry just determined to see McCain go down in flames again.
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