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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:33 am
Post subject: High Court Nixes Death Penalty for Minors under 18
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:51 pm
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Harry Krause wrote:
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the
Constitution
> forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they
committed
> their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.
>
> The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile
> murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future
crimes.
>
> The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.
>
> It was the second major defeat at the high court in three years for
> supporters of the death penalty. Justices in 2002 banned the
execution
> of the mentally retarded, also citing the Constitution's Eighth
> Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishments.
>
> The court had already outlawed executions for those who were 15 and
> younger when they committed their crimes.
>
> Tuesday's ruling prevents states from making 16- and 17-year-olds
> eligible for execution.
>
> Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, cited the fact
that
> most states don't allow the execution of juvenile killers and those
that
> do use the penalty infrequently. The trend, he noted, was to abolish
the
> practice.
>
> "Our society views juveniles ... as categorically less culpable than
the
> average criminal," Kennedy wrote.
I don't know about this. If you look at the statistics of inner cities,
you'll see that an alarming rate of murders and habitual crimes are
perpetrated by persons under 18. Now, I'm not necessarily for the death
penalty, but, I do think that these thugs should be treated just like
someone who did the same crimes and was OVER 18.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:27 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:46 pm
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"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the Constitution
> forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed
> their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.
>
> The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile
> murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future
crimes.
>
> The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.
>
> It was the second major defeat at the high court in three years for
> supporters of the death penalty. Justices in 2002 banned the execution
> of the mentally retarded, also citing the Constitution's Eighth
> Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishments.
>
> The court had already outlawed executions for those who were 15 and
> younger when they committed their crimes.
>
> Tuesday's ruling prevents states from making 16- and 17-year-olds
> eligible for execution.
>
> Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, cited the fact that
> most states don't allow the execution of juvenile killers and those that
> do use the penalty infrequently. The trend, he noted, was to abolish the
> practice.
>
> "Our society views juveniles ... as categorically less culpable than the
> average criminal," Kennedy wrote.
And if they ban the requirement that a minor gets out at 21 for most violent
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:46 pm
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:46:33 GMT, "Calif Bill" <bmckee.nospam.TakeThisOut@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
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>"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:38jg9sF5iji1iU1@individual.net...
>> WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the Constitution
>> forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed
>> their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.
>>
>> The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile
>> murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future
>crimes.
>>
>> The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.
>>
>> It was the second major defeat at the high court in three years for
>> supporters of the death penalty. Justices in 2002 banned the execution
>> of the mentally retarded, also citing the Constitution's Eighth
>> Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishments.
>>
>> The court had already outlawed executions for those who were 15 and
>> younger when they committed their crimes.
>>
>> Tuesday's ruling prevents states from making 16- and 17-year-olds
>> eligible for execution.
>>
>> Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, cited the fact that
>> most states don't allow the execution of juvenile killers and those that
>> do use the penalty infrequently. The trend, he noted, was to abolish the
>> practice.
>>
>> "Our society views juveniles ... as categorically less culpable than the
>> average criminal," Kennedy wrote.
>
>And if they ban the requirement that a minor gets out at 21 for most violent
>crimes, they will be doing good.
>
They'd change their minds if they spent a couple weeks in an 8th grade
classroom!
John H
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:46 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:23 am
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"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> John H wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:46:33 GMT, "Calif Bill"
<bmckee.nospam RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:38jg9sF5iji1iU1@individual.net...
> >>
> >>>WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the
Constitution
> >>>forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed
> >>>their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.
> >>>
> >>>The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile
> >>>murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future
> >>
> >>crimes.
> >>
> >>>The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.
> >>>
> >>>It was the second major defeat at the high court in three years for
> >>>supporters of the death penalty. Justices in 2002 banned the execution
> >>>of the mentally retarded, also citing the Constitution's Eighth
> >>>Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishments.
> >>>
> >>>The court had already outlawed executions for those who were 15 and
> >>>younger when they committed their crimes.
> >>>
> >>>Tuesday's ruling prevents states from making 16- and 17-year-olds
> >>>eligible for execution.
> >>>
> >>>Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, cited the fact that
> >>>most states don't allow the execution of juvenile killers and those
that
> >>>do use the penalty infrequently. The trend, he noted, was to abolish
the
> >>>practice.
> >>>
> >>>"Our society views juveniles ... as categorically less culpable than
the
> >>>average criminal," Kennedy wrote.
> >>
> >>And if they ban the requirement that a minor gets out at 21 for most
violent
> >>crimes, they will be doing good.
> >>
> >
> >
> > They'd change their minds if they spent a couple weeks in an 8th grade
> > classroom!
> >
> >
> > John H
> >
> > "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
>
>
> If you were a competent substitute teacher, you'd think otherwise.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:23 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:08 pm
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Calif Bill wrote:
> "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:38mhcfF5r2lt7U3@individual.net...
> > Calif Bill wrote:
> > > "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:38kl60F5pm3d0U1@individual.net...
> > >
> > >>Calif Bill wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> If you were a competent, that would be amazing.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Not to worry, I'm sure I'm a better writer than you are a home
handyman,
> > >>and I never hire undocumented help from a shape-up.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, you are most likely wrong. Since I do not see any great
American
> > > Novel with the in his own mind "the great" HK as the author, I
will say
> you
> > > are just another liberal arts major, making a living.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Your criteria is as vacuous as your existence.
>
> At least my existance is not posting lies on newsgroups as a major
part of
> life.
Yeah, like Fritz, JimH, Smithers, and now NOYB.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: High Court Nixes Death Penalty for Minors under 18 |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:31 pm
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 01:23:41 GMT, "Calif Bill" <bmckee.nospam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
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>"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:38k3eiF5pn4g9U1@individual.net...
>> John H wrote:
>> > On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:46:33 GMT, "Calif Bill"
><bmckee.nospam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:38jg9sF5iji1iU1@individual.net...
>> >>
>> >>>WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the
>Constitution
>> >>>forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed
>> >>>their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.
>> >>>
>> >>>The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile
>> >>>murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future
>> >>
>> >>crimes.
>> >>
>> >>>The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.
>> >>>
>> >>>It was the second major defeat at the high court in three years for
>> >>>supporters of the death penalty. Justices in 2002 banned the execution
>> >>>of the mentally retarded, also citing the Constitution's Eighth
>> >>>Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishments.
>> >>>
>> >>>The court had already outlawed executions for those who were 15 and
>> >>>younger when they committed their crimes.
>> >>>
>> >>>Tuesday's ruling prevents states from making 16- and 17-year-olds
>> >>>eligible for execution.
>> >>>
>> >>>Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, cited the fact that
>> >>>most states don't allow the execution of juvenile killers and those
>that
>> >>>do use the penalty infrequently. The trend, he noted, was to abolish
>the
>> >>>practice.
>> >>>
>> >>>"Our society views juveniles ... as categorically less culpable than
>the
>> >>>average criminal," Kennedy wrote.
>> >>
>> >>And if they ban the requirement that a minor gets out at 21 for most
>violent
>> >>crimes, they will be doing good.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > They'd change their minds if they spent a couple weeks in an 8th grade
>> > classroom!
>> >
>> >
>> > John H
>> >
>> > "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
>>
>>
>> If you were a competent substitute teacher, you'd think otherwise.
>
> If you were a competent, that would be amazing.
>
Bill, please do me favor. Next time you respond to Harry, delete his shit first.
Then I won't accidentally run across it while reading something written by
someone with sense.
Thanks!!
John H
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:59 pm
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Bassy,
I think you take this too seriously, when you go to your support groups tell
them you are having trouble playing nicely in rec.boats.
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> Calif Bill wrote:
>> "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> > Calif Bill wrote:
>> > > "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:38kl60F5pm3d0U1@individual.net...
>> > >
>> > >>Calif Bill wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>>"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If you were a competent, that would be amazing.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>Not to worry, I'm sure I'm a better writer than you are a home
> handyman,
>> > >>and I never hire undocumented help from a shape-up.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Well, you are most likely wrong. Since I do not see any great
> American
>> > > Novel with the in his own mind "the great" HK as the author, I
> will say
>> you
>> > > are just another liberal arts major, making a living.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Your criteria is as vacuous as your existence.
>>
>> At least my existance is not posting lies on newsgroups as a major
> part of
>> life.
>
> Yeah, like Fritz, JimH, Smithers, and now NOYB.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:46 pm
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"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Calif Bill wrote:
> > "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > If you were a competent, that would be amazing.
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> Not to worry, I'm sure I'm a better writer than you are a home handyman,
> and I never hire undocumented help from a shape-up.
Well, you are most likely wrong. Since I do not see any great American
Novel with the in his own mind "the great" HK as the author, I will say you
are just another liberal arts major, making a living.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: High Court Nixes Death Penalty for Minors under 18 |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:46 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:29 pm
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"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Calif Bill wrote:
> > "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>Calif Bill wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you were a competent, that would be amazing.
> >>
> >>
> >>Not to worry, I'm sure I'm a better writer than you are a home handyman,
> >>and I never hire undocumented help from a shape-up.
> >
> >
> > Well, you are most likely wrong. Since I do not see any great American
> > Novel with the in his own mind "the great" HK as the author, I will say
you
> > are just another liberal arts major, making a living.
> >
> >
>
>
> Your criteria is as vacuous as your existence.
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