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Bob La Londe

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:39 pm
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It seems I recall that outboards used to be rated for horsepower at the
crank, and now they are rated at the prop shaft. The net difference being
that a newer motor actually develops more power for the same rating than an
older motor.

Is that true?

If so, at about what time did motors start being rated at the prop shaft?

The reason I ask is that I just got my Whacko (Waco) on the water.

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They way it is configured it is rated for a 50HP outboard. I have an older
Froce 50 on it that I picked up from Ebay. It runs great, but I was
wondering if shopping for a newer motor might get me a little better push.

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Tony Thomas

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:35 am
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This is true. I believe the change occurred in 1985 but may be wrong on the
exact year.
A new outboard does produce about 15% more than an old one. Plus the fact
that a new outboard can be rated +/- 10%. So a 150 could actually be a 165
and still be rated at 150. Plus the fact that a rating is at a certain rpm.
Take for example a 200 hp 1990 model Evinrude. They were rated at 5000
rpms. They would actually produce about 225 at 6000 rpms.

Every motor is different however. In your case, a new Merc 50 would
definitely be stronger than that old force. But it probably would not be
worth the cost of a new engine for the 5 mph top end difference. Most bang
for the buck would be to get a good SS prop that will give you a lot more
bow lift.

Tony
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"Bob La Londe" <usenet.TakeThisOut@diycomponents.com> wrote in message
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 > It seems I recall that outboards used to be rated for horsepower at the
 > crank, and now they are rated at the prop shaft. The net difference being
 > that a newer motor actually develops more power for the same rating than
an
 > older motor.
 >
 > Is that true?
 >
 > If so, at about what time did motors start being rated at the prop shaft?
 >
 > The reason I ask is that I just got my Whacko (Waco) on the water.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://tinyurl.com/yqcs7</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yqcs7</font</a>>
 >
 > They way it is configured it is rated for a 50HP outboard. I have an
older
 > Froce 50 on it that I picked up from Ebay. It runs great, but I was
 > wondering if shopping for a newer motor might get me a little better push.
 >
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 > com
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Clams Canino

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:25 am
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1982 for a lot of the Mercs.

Not worth a repower.

-W

"Tony Thomas" <t.thomas.RemoveThis@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:niR4c.9224$_w.268361@attbi_s53...
 > This is true. I believe the change occurred in 1985 but may be wrong on
the
 > exact year.
 > A new outboard does produce about 15% more than an old one. Plus the fact
 > that a new outboard can be rated +/- 10%. So a 150 could actually be a
165
 > and still be rated at 150. Plus the fact that a rating is at a certain
rpm.
 > Take for example a 200 hp 1990 model Evinrude. They were rated at 5000
 > rpms. They would actually produce about 225 at 6000 rpms.
 >
 > Every motor is different however. In your case, a new Merc 50 would
 > definitely be stronger than that old force. But it probably would not be
 > worth the cost of a new engine for the 5 mph top end difference. Most
bang
 > for the buck would be to get a good SS prop that will give you a lot more
 > bow lift.
 >
 > Tony
<font color=purple> > my boats at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com</font" target="_blank">http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com</font</a>>
 >
 >
 >
 > "Bob La Londe" <usenet.RemoveThis@diycomponents.com> wrote in message
 > news:U4-dnc2ci9wsTs7d4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
  > > It seems I recall that outboards used to be rated for horsepower at the
  > > crank, and now they are rated at the prop shaft. The net difference
being
  > > that a newer motor actually develops more power for the same rating than
 > an
  > > older motor.
  > >
  > > Is that true?
  > >
  > > If so, at about what time did motors start being rated at the prop
shaft?
  > >
  > > The reason I ask is that I just got my Whacko (Waco) on the water.
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://tinyurl.com/yqcs7</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yqcs7</font</a>>
  > >
  > > They way it is configured it is rated for a 50HP outboard. I have an
 > older
  > > Froce 50 on it that I picked up from Ebay. It runs great, but I was
  > > wondering if shopping for a newer motor might get me a little better
push.
  > >
  > > --
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  > > Fishing Link Index
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  > >
  > > webmaster
  > > at
  > > YumaBsssMan
  > > dot
  > > com
  > >
  > >
 >
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