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Ken Ibold

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:33 pm
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I have an opportunity to buy a 2003 Hurricane deck boat at what seems to be
a great price. However, it's equipped with a 140 hp 4-stroke Johnson. The
dealers I've talked to say the new Johnsons are lousy engines and that 140
hp isn't enough for a 2600 pound boat. Performance issues aside, is there
any reason to shy away from Johnsons? This boat has only 7 hours on it.

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CCred68046

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:51 am
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 >I have an opportunity to buy a 2003 Hurricane deck boat at what seems to be
 >a great price. However, it's equipped with a 140 hp 4-stroke Johnson. The
 >dealers I've talked to say the new Johnsons are lousy engines and that 140
 >hp isn't enough for a 2600 pound boat. Performance issues aside, is there
 >any reason to shy away from Johnsons? This boat has only 7 hours on it.
 >

1. 140 hp is plenty for a deck boat. Most folks dont buy a deck boat for high
performance. Smile

2. I'd be willing to bet the dealers that told you the Johnson was a lousy
motor didnt sell them.

3. I'm not aware of any design problems with this motor that would make it any
better or worse than the other new ones out there. If you ask me, most of the
new outboards are service nightmares compared to the old ones.

4. As with anything else on a boat, that motor will be as good as the care and
maintenance you give it. I have seen practically new Mercs and Yamahas junked
from lack of or incorrect maintenence. I see old Chryslers out there from the
60's still running because someone took CARE of them.

If you like the boat that much and are worried about performance, have them put
it in the water for you and try it. If they think you are a serious buyer and
wont do that I would go somewhere else.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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del cecchi1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:26 am
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Isnt' the 140 HP Johnson 4stroke really a Suzuki with different paint?
From what I've seen, the Suzuki 4strokes are pretty good motors.

"CCred68046" <ccred68046.TakeThisOut@aol.comnobull> wrote in message
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  > >I have an opportunity to buy a 2003 Hurricane deck boat at what seems
to be
  > >a great price. However, it's equipped with a 140 hp 4-stroke Johnson.
The
  > >dealers I've talked to say the new Johnsons are lousy engines and
that 140
  > >hp isn't enough for a 2600 pound boat. Performance issues aside, is
there
  > >any reason to shy away from Johnsons? This boat has only 7 hours on
it.
  > >
 >
 > 1. 140 hp is plenty for a deck boat. Most folks dont buy a deck boat
for high
 > performance. Smile
 >
 > 2. I'd be willing to bet the dealers that told you the Johnson was a
lousy
 > motor didnt sell them.
 >
 > 3. I'm not aware of any design problems with this motor that would
make it any
 > better or worse than the other new ones out there. If you ask me,
most of the
 > new outboards are service nightmares compared to the old ones.
 >
 > 4. As with anything else on a boat, that motor will be as good as the
care and
 > maintenance you give it. I have seen practically new Mercs and
Yamahas junked
 > from lack of or incorrect maintenence. I see old Chryslers out there
from the
 > 60's still running because someone took CARE of them.
 >
 > If you like the boat that much and are worried about performance, have
them put
 > it in the water for you and try it. If they think you are a serious
buyer and
 > wont do that I would go somewhere else.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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FishFan

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:38 pm
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"del cecchi" <dcecchi.nojunk.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message news:<2ikq1hFoj634U1.TakeThisOut@uni-berlin.de>...

 > Isnt' the 140 HP Johnson 4stroke really a Suzuki with different paint?

Yes they are...

 > From what I've seen, the Suzuki 4strokes are pretty good motors.
 >

.... and Yes they are.

I wouldn't touch a Ficht/E-Tec with a ten foot pole, and I would even
be a little leary of the Bankruptcy era J/E two-strokes (99-01), but
the Suzuki built 4-strokes have a pretty good rep, at least up to the
140 size. The jury's still out on the new 225/250, but so far I've
heard only good... but that's from only two people with brand new
motors.

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Ken Ibold

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:03 pm
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"del cecchi" <dcecchi.nojunk.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
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 > Isnt' the 140 HP Johnson 4stroke really a Suzuki with different paint?
 > From what I've seen, the Suzuki 4strokes are pretty good motors.

Don't know about in the past, but I think Johnson is made by Bombardier now,
as is Evinrude.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rich Stern

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:03 am
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 >I have an opportunity to buy a 2003 Hurricane deck boat at what seems to be
 >a great price. However, it's equipped with a 140 hp 4-stroke Johnson. The
 >dealers I've talked to say the new Johnsons are lousy engines and that 140
 >hp isn't enough for a 2600 pound boat. Performance issues aside, is there
 >any reason to shy away from Johnsons? This boat has only 7 hours on it.

What's the max hp rating on the boat?

If it's propped correctly and you aren't after maximum speed, it can probably
work very nicely. Drive it with a handful of people aboard to be sure.


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Ken Ibold

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:42 am
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"Rich Stern" <rbstern.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > What's the max hp rating on the boat?
 >
 > If it's propped correctly and you aren't after maximum speed, it can
probably
 > work very nicely. Drive it with a handful of people aboard to be sure.

Max is allowable is 225. We're not really after blistering performance and
expect the boat to be toward the sluggish end of the acceptable scale. My
primary concern is over the quality of the engine and what it bodes for
maintenance and down time.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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