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D_Sailor

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Since: Jun 16, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:28 pm
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Hello all,

I am the proud owner of the new Glastron MX175. I have been using it
quite a lot since I picked it up in May. I love this boat it covers
all my boating needs (for now, before footitis hits). I had the chance
to take it to the different waters including the Lake Ontario with the
5ft chop to the very small and calm Muskoka lakes.

Here are some of the questions that I had on my mind as the newbie
boater.
1. Is it recommended to have VHF, GPS, Depth/Fish finder and suggested
kind for the 17ft boat?

2. I already put a few scratches (mostly occurred during trailering),
do I fix them as soon as possible given that the scratches are not
deep or should I wait the end of season.

3. I wanted to install a CD played and a couple of speakers for some
music. What do I need as far as materials besides the tools?

Thank you

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Bryan

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:37 am
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Before any of that- take a powersquadrons course, and get your operators
permit. Get stopped on the water by Ontario's finest and they have little
patience or tolerance for excuses and fines suck.
17 footer? VHF...why? cell phone always worked fine for me on inland waters.
Depth finder nice to have, fish finder, another nice "toy" to have. GPS,
seems to be a "necessity" these days among newbie's... I still say it's an
overpriced toy/luxury, but it tops my list of "nice to haves... the portable
garmins are decent and inexpensive but you still need to know how to read a
chart"
Gel coat scratches are usually no big deal, some can be wet sanded out and
polished by the DIY. Gouges can be a big deal if they have gone through to
the glass weave. Trying to match gel coat repair colour to what is on your
hull is impossible at best. Its akin to matching paint when repainting half
of an old car...you get close but will never be identical, and I still say
it's best left to the pro's.
If this is your first boat, I'd wait 1 or 2 more years before running off
and fixing the gel coat (trust me you "will" acquire more nicks and cuts).
Music? great just make sure you install marine grade equipment, the
automotive stuff wont last one one year in the harshness of a marine
environment.

Bryan

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David Purvis

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:06 am
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Always have a VHF Radio! Why? A cell phone might work but only the one on
the other end can hear you . With a radio anybody with one can hear you and
help you out if they can.
"Bryan" <flyerboyz.RemoveThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:WgLHc.5120$G%r.1860@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
 > Before any of that- take a powersquadrons course, and get your operators
 > permit. Get stopped on the water by Ontario's finest and they have little
 > patience or tolerance for excuses and fines suck.
 > 17 footer? VHF...why? cell phone always worked fine for me on inland
waters.
 > Depth finder nice to have, fish finder, another nice "toy" to have. GPS,
 > seems to be a "necessity" these days among newbie's... I still say it's an
 > overpriced toy/luxury, but it tops my list of "nice to haves... the
portable
 > garmins are decent and inexpensive but you still need to know how to read
a
 > chart"
 > Gel coat scratches are usually no big deal, some can be wet sanded out and
 > polished by the DIY. Gouges can be a big deal if they have gone through to
 > the glass weave. Trying to match gel coat repair colour to what is on your
 > hull is impossible at best. Its akin to matching paint when repainting
half
 > of an old car...you get close but will never be identical, and I still say
 > it's best left to the pro's.
 > If this is your first boat, I'd wait 1 or 2 more years before running off
 > and fixing the gel coat (trust me you "will" acquire more nicks and cuts).
 > Music? great just make sure you install marine grade equipment, the
 > automotive stuff wont last one one year in the harshness of a marine
 > environment.
 >
 > Bryan
 >
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Jacques Deslaurier

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:48 pm
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"David Purvis" <david.purvis.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> a écrit dans le message de
news:xQ%Jc.47505$RD4.2156300@news20.bellglobal.com...
 > Always have a VHF Radio! Why? A cell phone might work but only the one on
 > the other end can hear you . With a radio anybody with one can hear you
and
 > help you out if they can.
 >
 >
 >

The above is correct, a VHF is by far the best communication devicce for
small distances.
I also heard, and I hope someone can confirm this, that with a cell phone
you can dial *16
and reach the cost guards ???
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Charles T. Low1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:36 am
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Jacques,

That is correct: dialing *16 on a cellular telephone contacts the Canadian
Coast Guard. Apparently not all cellular providers offer this service, but
most of the major ones do.

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 > The above is correct, a VHF is by far the best communication devicce for
 > small distances.
 > I also heard, and I hope someone can confirm this, that with a cell phone
 > you can dial *16
 > and reach the cost guards ???
 > Jacques<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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C.Lohnes

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:22 pm
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Well I Will ALWAYS have a VHF on my boats , I started to sink in lake
ontario about 5 miles out and without the help of a fellow boater who heard
my SOS on the VHF I would be sleeping on the bottom of the lake




"Charles T. Low" <ctlow5.RemoveThis@boatUNdocking.com> wrote in message
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 > Jacques,
 >
 > That is correct: dialing *16 on a cellular telephone contacts the Canadian
 > Coast Guard. Apparently not all cellular providers offer this service, but
 > most of the major ones do.
 >
 > ====
 >
 > Charles T. Low
 > ctlow5.RemoveThis@boatUNdocking.com - remove "UN"
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 >
 > ====
 >
 > "Jacques Deslauriers" <jacquesdeslauriers.RemoveThis@videotron.ca> wrote in message
 > news:mrgLc.41255$cR4.382661@weber.videotron.net...
  > > The above is correct, a VHF is by far the best communication devicce for
  > > small distances.
  > > I also heard, and I hope someone can confirm this, that with a cell
phone
  > > you can dial *16
  > > and reach the cost guards ???
  > > Jacques
 >
 >


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Jean Dufour

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:28 am
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Hi everyone!

While getting back from Rimouski, we passed a small sailboat which looked anchored. Once well out of
sight, we heard the captain call the CG and tell he had an engine failure. There was no wind
wathsoever. He was right in front of a marina but didn't tell the CG, hoping probably to get a tow
to his own marina, as an AuxCG told me, it happens often. First thing the CG asked him was: Do you
have a cell phone? As it was not an emergency, he suggested to call a friend at his home marina. No
one answered the CG call for help in the vicinity, we passed there half an hour before his call with
another sailboat sailing in the opposite direction.

So, my point is, a cell phone can be of great help IN ADDITION to the VHF, especially on weekdays
when not that many people are on the water. Also, would the guy had waved at me or called a pan-pan
while I was nearby, he'd could have get out of there faster. Do not wait for every other boats to
disapear before calling for help. He probably tried to restart, then called for help. He should have
proceed the other way around IMO.

Finally, the wind rose and he was able to get back under way. But I was really surprised by the CG's
suggestion to use the cell if he had one. They are not that useless after all.

Jean Dufour
Montreal, Qc


"C.Lohnes" wrote:

> Well I Will ALWAYS have a VHF on my boats , I started to sink in lake
> ontario about 5 miles out and without the help of a fellow boater who heard
> my SOS on the VHF I would be sleeping on the bottom of the lake
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:26 pm
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The yacht clubs here monitor channel 68 on the VHF.
During a race last year one of our crew ran us aground on a rock ledge
opposite the Squadron. I called them on 68 and they sent the duty boat over
to tow us off.
Trouble is...everyone else in the race heard my broadcast and we had to put
up with a bit of ribbing.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:29 am
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Hi Don!

Here too! It looks like he didn't try that, didn't know about that or, by the way he called the CGs,
purely was in lack of a vhf operator licence. Another thing I suspect is that the guy didn't want to
get to any other marina than his home port.

A CGaux told me that one: Awoke at 2 AM by the CG, there was a speedboat with an engine failure
(lack of gas?) near Vercheres. Once there, he tied the boat to his own and told the owner he was
bringing him back to Vercheres. The guy wanted to be towed to his own marina in Repentigny (2 hours
farther at trawler speed). Not happy at all with this, he cut the lines of his savior and called for
another tow!!! As he was in no danger, can I tell you the CGs left him with his misery for a long
time!

Yup, some confuse the term rescue with taxi service!!!

Don White wrote:

> The yacht clubs here monitor channel 68 on the VHF.
> During a race last year one of our crew ran us aground on a rock ledge
> opposite the Squadron. I called them on 68 and they sent the duty boat over
> to tow us off.
> Trouble is...everyone else in the race heard my broadcast and we had to put
> up with a bit of ribbing.
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