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D_Sailor

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Since: Jun 16, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:17 pm
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Hello all,

I am the proud owner of the new Glastron MX175. I have been using it
quite a lot since I picked it up in May. I love this boat it covers
all my boating needs (for now, before footitis hits). I had the chance
to take it to the different waters including the Lake Ontario with the
5ft chop to the very small and calm Muskoka lakes.

Here are some of the questions that I had on my mind as the newbie
boater.
1. Is it recommended to have VHF, GPS, Depth/Fish finder and suggested
kind for the 17ft boat?

2. I already put a few scratches (mostly occurred during trailering),
do I fix them as soon as possible given that the scratches are not
deep or should I wait the end of season.


Thank you

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Greg Moore3

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:12 pm
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Re VHF etc, that really depends on what water you will run on and your uses
for the boat. For VHF, if you will always be close to shore and mostly
smaller lakes, not a major item, you're not running an overnighter nor will
you likely run any great distances in one. A hand held could be a good
choice, moves with you if you change boats etc. For GPS, similar
circumstances to above, but they are great for fishing too. Again, a
handheld because in this case it serves for hiking, in your car etc etc and
they are not that expensive any more.

Depth finder, again, somewhat lake and past time related. They generally
won't save your lower unit when running at speed, by the time it sounds off,
your prop usually has too. My last boat had a simple digital in dash style
at that was fine for what I did on Lake Huron, prior to that I did a lot of
salmon fishing and used a very high end graph style. If you boat the same
lake all the time and don't fish, skip it, if you do a lot of new water all
the time, at least a depth gauge is good to have.

For the scratches, if they are still within the gel coat and especially
above water, then not too worry. If through the gel or below water, then at
the very least put a really heavy coat of wax on then. Shallow scrapes can
be rubbed out later, deeper ones need to be filled. If you did seal them
temp with wax, remember to use a wax remover before you fill them!

For your other question in a second post. Don't know that boat but I assume
it isn't cuddy style. If that is the case, I would suggest either a marine
CD or a cover and use a decent auto head unit. Generally you will get a
much better sounding unit for the $ going auto, but it must be protected
somehow. As for speakers, marine or very very protected. Also, if you
really like your tunes, you will find that the bass levels in an open boat
are way below what you would expect from your car, if possible, go 6X9 and
not the smaller round speakers, they all sound somewhat tinny in a boat.

Greg Moore

"D_Sailor" <dhelc DeleteThis @dstoutput.ca> wrote in message
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 > Hello all,
 >
 > I am the proud owner of the new Glastron MX175. I have been using it
 > quite a lot since I picked it up in May. I love this boat it covers
 > all my boating needs (for now, before footitis hits). I had the chance
 > to take it to the different waters including the Lake Ontario with the
 > 5ft chop to the very small and calm Muskoka lakes.
 >
 > Here are some of the questions that I had on my mind as the newbie
 > boater.
 > 1. Is it recommended to have VHF, GPS, Depth/Fish finder and suggested
 > kind for the 17ft boat?
 >
 > 2. I already put a few scratches (mostly occurred during trailering),
 > do I fix them as soon as possible given that the scratches are not
 > deep or should I wait the end of season.
 >
 >
 > Thank you<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Don White

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:45 pm
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"D_Sailor" <dhelc.DeleteThis@dstoutput.ca> wrote in message
news:85b815ee.0406160914.55bef42f@posting.google.com...
 > Hello all,
 >
 > I am the proud owner of the new Glastron MX175. I have been using it
 > quite a lot since I picked it up in May. I love this boat it covers
 > all my boating needs (for now, before footitis hits). I had the chance
 > to take it to the different waters including the Lake Ontario with the
 > 5ft chop to the very small and calm Muskoka lakes.
 >
 > Here are some of the questions that I had on my mind as the newbie
 > boater.
 > 1. Is it recommended to have VHF, GPS, Depth/Fish finder and suggested
 > kind for the 17ft boat?

** yes to all of the above if going out of an area you are not familiar
with.
The most important would be a reliable compass and then a VHF. I'm
assuming you know about the safety items the Coast guard insists you
carry...such as heaving line, signaling device, paddle, bailer etc.

2. I already put a few scratches (mostly occurred during trailering),
 > do I fix them as soon as possible given that the scratches are not
 > deep or should I wait the end of season.
 >
**If you are going to leave the boat in the water any length of time & if
the scratches are below water line...yes!
You don't want moisture to get into the fibreglass matting below the
gelcoat.

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Jean Dufour8

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Since: Jun 17, 2004
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:11 pm
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Greg Moore wrote:

 > Re VHF etc, that really depends on what water you will run on and your uses
 > for the boat. For VHF, if you will always be close to shore and mostly
 > smaller lakes, not a major item, you're not running an overnighter nor will
 > you likely run any great distances in one. A hand held could be a good
 > choice, moves with you if you change boats etc.

Agree. If you stay within cell phone coverage, it's more polyvalent than a VHF.
Dialing *16 on cells will put you in contact with the CGs the same as on VHF
channel 16. In Īle-aux-Coudres, I have to close my log with the cell as vhf
won't pass in the marina's hole. Will make you stay in contact with the friends
an guests much better than a VHF. A raincoat for the cell may be a good idea at
this boat size.

Jean Dufour
Montreal, Qc<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Charles T. Low1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:46 am
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Question 1: I'm not sure that any of those pieces of eqpt. are
"recommended" ... it depends on what you're using your boat for. I, for
example, in a 26 footer, didn't have a GPS for years, and now find it mostly
a toy (which is fine!), because I do 100% of my navigation by visual
"conning" (as it's called) in the waters in which I boat.

I have always had a depth guage, and always use it, but here in the Thousand
Islands its main function is to tell you how deep the water was before you
hit the rock. I find it more helpful in areas where the water is murky. But
basically I have learned how to read charts, and - for the most part - to
trust them. That means knowng where I am, which is an important skill, not
hard to do, but also not hard to mess up.

VHF: i) used to get in touch with friends to arrange to meet, for example,
or ii) to put out safety and distress calls. A cell phone doesn't quite
replace it because with a cell phone you can't put out a "general alert." If
you phone the CG on *16, they can put out an alert for you, which is good
but doesn't give you quite the same immediacy of response.

So, overall, equipment is neat, fun, can be very helpful up to and including
life-saving, but the best safety tool we have is our brains. Lots of people
have run aground using a GPS or depth guage, or not been able to communicate
clearly using a VHF (and you're supposed to pass a course before you can use
one legally - often ignored). Electronics can also distract you from your
boating, and it's very important at all times to keep your eyes and mind up
and out of the cockpit, aware of everything going on around you.

Question 2: I agree with the others, that above-water scratches are not
urgent.

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"D_Sailor" <dhelc DeleteThis @dstoutput.ca> wrote in message
news:85b815ee.0406160914.55bef42f@posting.google.com...
 > Hello all,
 >
 > I am the proud owner of the new Glastron MX175. I have been using it
 > quite a lot since I picked it up in May. I love this boat it covers
 > all my boating needs (for now, before footitis hits). I had the chance
 > to take it to the different waters including the Lake Ontario with the
 > 5ft chop to the very small and calm Muskoka lakes.
 >
 > Here are some of the questions that I had on my mind as the newbie
 > boater.
 > 1. Is it recommended to have VHF, GPS, Depth/Fish finder and suggested
 > kind for the 17ft boat?
 >
 > 2. I already put a few scratches (mostly occurred during trailering),
 > do I fix them as soon as possible given that the scratches are not
 > deep or should I wait the end of season.
 >
 >
 > Thank you<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Jean Dufour8

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:39 am
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"Charles T. Low" wrote:

 > I have always had a depth guage, and always use it, but here in the Thousand
 > Islands its main function is to tell you how deep the water was before you
 > hit the rock. I find it more helpful in areas where the water is murky. But
 > basically I have learned how to read charts, and - for the most part - to
 > trust them. That means knowng where I am, which is an important skill, not
 > hard to do, but also not hard to mess up.

Depth sounder is a definite first on a newbie list! And in combination with
charts is normally the least you can do not to get lost nor beached.


 > VHF: i) used to get in touch with friends to arrange to meet, for example,
 > or ii) to put out safety and distress calls. A cell phone doesn't quite
 > replace it because with a cell phone you can't put out a "general alert." If
 > you phone the CG on *16, they can put out an alert for you, which is good
 > but doesn't give you quite the same immediacy of response.

In our area, there's so much babling sometimes that we prefer to chat over the
cell much more privately and freeing bandwith. Then, it's only good with other
boating friends. With a cell, you can most probably reach your guest and ask
why they are late! Wink. I must admit not having a cell anymore though! and 2
VHFs! ;-O Once your a bit saltier, the vhf kind of become your first tool, but
there are great chances a newcomer to boating will already have a cellphone and
have minimum safety and great conveniences by bringing the cell and know how to
use it to reach CGs. I guess I meant to bring it anyway if you have it;
seasoned or not!

Jean
Montreal<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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