Outboards - 2 vs 4 Cycle

 >In smaller shops they people talk like 4 cycles are a disaster waiting to
 >happen. The larger ones seem to think they are the best thing since sliced
 >bread. What is the truth.
 >

The larger shops have sent their people to "4 cycle school" the smaller shops
are stabbing in the dark.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Greg" <gfretwell.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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  > >In smaller shops they people talk like 4 cycles are a disaster waiting to
  > >happen. The larger ones seem to think they are the best thing since
sliced
  > >bread. What is the truth.
  > >
 >
 > The larger shops have sent their people to "4 cycle school" the smaller
shops
 > are stabbing in the dark.

Seeing that they have been building modern 4 strokes for a long time and few
problems in cars and the outboards are just dry sumped like every NASCAR and
circle track car in the country, they should last a long time with few
problems. (Great run on sentence). The modern 2 stroke with oil injection
for lub and the fuel only going into the cylinder, plus high pressure air
pumps, etc., and no cooling of the piston by the fuel air charge, leads me
to believe that the 2 stroke is the disaster waiting to happen. Only OB's I
have are a 1986 old technology 15 hp Mariner, that is a low hours motor that
runs great. And a 2 year old Yamaha T-8 4 stroke, that is a dream to fish
and troll with. Quiet, no smell, no smoke. My main engine is also a 4
stroke, but it comes from Ford originally.
Bill<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"HugYourPug" <hugyourpug RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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 > In smaller shops they people talk like 4 cycles are a disaster waiting to
 > happen. The larger ones seem to think they are the best thing since sliced
 > bread. What is the truth.


The basic 4 cycle engine has been around for a long, long time! Even though
they have not been big sellers until recently 4 cycle outboards have been
around for a long time as well.

One reason for the big push towards 4 cycle outboards is that the
conventional 2 cycle engine is getting outlawed from many lakes and some
states (like California). In order to meet the emission regulations you
either need a 4 cycle or one of the new 2 cycle motors. 4 cycle I know and
understand. It is a proven technology and they aren't pushing any limits.
The new 2 cycle engines, on the other hand, have not survived the test of
time.

Rod<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I have a 2002, 90 honda 4 stroke, 2001 225 Ficht DFI 2 stroke and a 2001 250
johnson carb 2 stroke all on commercial boats.The first 2 have around 500
hours on them and the Johnson has about 200 hours. They all work wonderfully
and I have no complaints about any.

"HugYourPug" <hugyourpug.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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 > In smaller shops they people talk like 4 cycles are a disaster waiting to
 > happen. The larger ones seem to think they are the best thing since sliced
 > bread. What is the truth.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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The new EPA laws that are coming up i belive 2006 any new Outboard to be sold
in the USA is to be four stroke or meet Low emmison like the yamaha HPI.
Nothing wrong with either engine. 2 strokes great Power to weight ratio.
4stroke great gph. and with the rising fuel prices. which in effect will in
turn raise 2stroke oil prices up too. I say the one that saves you the most
money down the road.
But grant it all new models will have some bugs with em and a few of the
outboard company kinda of let the public find the little problems for em. Which
they have done in the past with 2strokes. Funny thing is i use to work for a
small dealership we loved the four strokes and after 10years with them and the
owners retired, The new company that took over and had like about 4 other shops
in the state had thier heads in the sand about 4strokes and refused to send the
Mech's to the update semniars and schools. So as for the next couple of years
its a matter of choice.
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 >In smaller shops they people talk like 4 cycles are a disaster waiting to
 >happen. The larger ones seem to think they are the best thing since sliced
 >bread. What is the truth.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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