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dizouglas

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:13 am
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It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.

With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
battery?

I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
purchasing a new battery each summer.

Thanks in advanced,

Dizouglas

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:10 am
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On Nov 17, 10:29 am, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
> dizoug....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
> > of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
> > battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
>
> > With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
> > parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
> > ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
> > battery?
>
> > I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
> > purchasing a new battery each summer.
>
> > Thanks in advanced,
>
> > Dizouglas
>
> Take the battery out of the boat, clean it off, fill it with distilled
> water if it needs it, and carry down to your basement or storage room.
> Give it a trickle charge and trickle charge it once a month.
>
> Do not hook it up to your truck.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Why not?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:58 am
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On Nov 17, 11:31 am, "jamesgangnc" <ja... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> No, that is a bad idea. Your truck alternator probably puts out something
> around 50 amps max.

How? The power produced by the alternator is regulated. The only way
you'll see that 50A current is if both batteries are dead flat. Then,
the truck's battery will be taking half of that.



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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:59 am
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On Nov 17, 11:15 am, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
> LoogyPic....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 10:29 am, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
> >> dizoug....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
> >>> of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
> >>> battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
> >>> With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
> >>> parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
> >>> ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
> >>> battery?
> >>> I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
> >>> purchasing a new battery each summer.
> >>> Thanks in advanced,
> >>> Dizouglas
> >> Take the battery out of the boat, clean it off, fill it with distilled
> >> water if it needs it, and carry down to your basement or storage room.
> >> Give it a trickle charge and trickle charge it once a month.
>
> >> Do not hook it up to your truck.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Why not?
>
> Because something will go wrong.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What "will" go wrong?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:29 am
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dizouglas DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
> of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
> battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
>
> With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
> parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
> ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
> battery?
>
> I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
> purchasing a new battery each summer.
>
> Thanks in advanced,
>
> Dizouglas

Take the battery out of the boat, clean it off, fill it with distilled
water if it needs it, and carry down to your basement or storage room.
Give it a trickle charge and trickle charge it once a month.

Do not hook it up to your truck.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:41 am
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On Sat, 17 Nov 07, HK wrote:
>Give it a trickle charge and trickle charge it once a month.

You can get "Smart Chargers" these days that sense battery condition
and turn themselves on when needed.
My primarry charger stays plugged in and hooked up to a boat battery
whenever I'm not using it (the charger) elsewhere. Now and then, I
hear it kick on and trickle a little while. Otherwise I'd forget for
sure.

Rick
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:05 am
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On Nov 17, 12:59 pm, LoogyPic... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 17, 11:15 am, HK <payer33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > LoogyPic... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Nov 17, 10:29 am, HK <payer33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
> > >> dizoug... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
> > >>> of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
> > >>> battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
> > >>> With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
> > >>> parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
> > >>> ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
> > >>> battery?
> > >>> I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
> > >>> purchasing a new battery each summer.
> > >>> Thanks in advanced,
> > >>> Dizouglas
> > >> Take the battery out of the boat, clean it off, fill it with distilled
> > >> water if it needs it, and carry down to your basement or storage room.
> > >> Give it a trickle charge and trickle charge it once a month.
>
> > >> Do not hook it up to your truck.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Why not?
>
> > Because something will go wrong.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> What "will" go wrong?

What is the amp/hour rating for a PWC battery versus a full size truck
battery? Just out of curiosity.

I had another friend suggest wiring it up to a 12-volt headlight for
the laundry room, then charge it each month.

I will look into the trickle charger suggestion.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:15 am
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LoogyPicker DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 17, 10:29 am, HK <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>> dizoug... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>> It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
>>> of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
>>> battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
>>> With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
>>> parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
>>> ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
>>> battery?
>>> I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
>>> purchasing a new battery each summer.
>>> Thanks in advanced,
>>> Dizouglas
>> Take the battery out of the boat, clean it off, fill it with distilled
>> water if it needs it, and carry down to your basement or storage room.
>> Give it a trickle charge and trickle charge it once a month.
>>
>> Do not hook it up to your truck.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Why not?


Because something will go wrong.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:31 am
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No, that is a bad idea. Your truck alternator probably puts out something
around 50 amps max. If much of that gets applied to the pwc battery it will
be toast. I take all my small wet cell batteries out, clean them up, top
off the water and leave them on the corner of my garage workbench. Every
month or so I put a 1 amp charger on them for a day. Having them on the
corner of the workbench reminds me. Another option would be to mark your
calendar.

<dizouglas RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
> of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
> battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
>
> With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
> parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
> ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
> battery?
>
> I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
> purchasing a new battery each summer.
>
> Thanks in advanced,
>
> Dizouglas
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:46 am
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On Nov 17, 2:41 pm, " JimH" <ask m... RemoveThis @me.com> wrote:
>
> I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my boat
> (fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter lay-up.

I have bought 4 batteries in 4 years now.

The battery will not be strong enough to start the PWC (even when the
battery charge ways the battery is full).
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:37 pm
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<LoogyPicker RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 17, 11:15 am, HK <payer33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>> LoogyPic... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Nov 17, 10:29 am, HK <payer33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>> >> dizoug... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> >>> It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long
>> >>> periods
>> >>> of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
>> >>> battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
>> >>> With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
>> >>> parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
>> >>> ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
>> >>> battery?
>> >>> I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
>> >>> purchasing a new battery each summer.
>> >>> Thanks in advanced,
>> >>> Dizouglas
>> >> Take the battery out of the boat, clean it off, fill it with distilled
>> >> water if it needs it, and carry down to your basement or storage room.
>> >> Give it a trickle charge and trickle charge it once a month.
>>
>> >> Do not hook it up to your truck.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Why not?
>>
>> Because something will go wrong.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> What "will" go wrong?
Very good question. I'm glad you asked.


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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:41 pm
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<dizouglas.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
> of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
> battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.
>
> With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
> parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
> ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
> battery?
>
> I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
> purchasing a new battery each summer.
>
> Thanks in advanced,
>
> Dizouglas

I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my boat
(fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter lay-up.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:17 pm
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<dizouglas RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 17, 2:41 pm, " JimH" <ask m... RemoveThis @me.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my boat
>> (fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter lay-up.
>
> I have bought 4 batteries in 4 years now.
>
> The battery will not be strong enough to start the PWC (even when the
> battery charge ways the battery is full).


What did you previously do with the battery over the winter lay-up?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:32 pm
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dizouglas.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 17, 2:41 pm, " JimH" <ask m....RemoveThis@me.com> wrote:
>> I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my boat
>> (fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter lay-up.
>
> I have bought 4 batteries in 4 years now.
>
> The battery will not be strong enough to start the PWC (even when the
> battery charge ways the battery is full).

What kind of batteries are you buying, what are you paying for them, and
where are you buying them?
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:32 pm
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JimH wrote:
> <dizouglas.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6f09a058-58b7-4391-b205-074b42072167@a28g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 17, 2:41 pm, " JimH" <ask m....RemoveThis@me.com> wrote:
>>> I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my boat
>>> (fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter lay-up.
>> I have bought 4 batteries in 4 years now.
>>
>> The battery will not be strong enough to start the PWC (even when the
>> battery charge ways the battery is full).
>
>
> What did you previously do with the battery over the winter lay-up?
>
>

Batteries will self discharge over the winter, especially in colder
areas. A discharged battery will have definitely have a shortened life.

When I had a trailered boat, I was told to bring the battery home to
keep it in the basement and keep a trickle charger on it. Many people
who don't want to bring the battery home, will use a solar panel trickle
charger to keep the battery fully charged.
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