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Jim29

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:38 pm
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REPORT IGNORES CONTROVERSIAL PROVISIONS: The report
(http://www.lifeandliberty.gov/docs/071304_report_from_the_field.pdf)
entirely avoids some of the most controversial sections of the Patriot Act.
Specifically, there is no mention of Section 213 (which permits
"sneak-and-peak" searches and seizures), Section 215 (which allows the
government to seize any tangible thing from any person pursuant to a
terrorist investigation) <Comment> Like maybe a boat?and Section 505 (which
allows the Justice Department to compel the production of documents). With
other controversial provisions, such Section 214 (which eased restrictions
on wiretaps for non-terrorists), the report praises the value of the
provisions but provides no information as to how or how often they have been
used. Likewise, there is no actual information about how Section 206 (which
permits vague authorizations for wiretaps) is being used -- but the Justice
Department does helpfully provide a hypothetical example of how it might be
used.

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Harry Krause1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:38 pm
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Jim wrote:

 > REPORT IGNORES CONTROVERSIAL PROVISIONS: The report
 > (http://www.lifeandliberty.gov/docs/071304_report_from_the_field.pdf)
 > entirely avoids some of the most controversial sections of the Patriot Act.
 > Specifically, there is no mention of Section 213 (which permits
 > "sneak-and-peak" searches and seizures), Section 215 (which allows the
 > government to seize any tangible thing from any person pursuant to a
 > terrorist investigation) <Comment> Like maybe a boat?and Section 505 (which
 > allows the Justice Department to compel the production of documents). With
 > other controversial provisions, such Section 214 (which eased restrictions
 > on wiretaps for non-terrorists), the report praises the value of the
 > provisions but provides no information as to how or how often they have been
 > used. Likewise, there is no actual information about how Section 206 (which
 > permits vague authorizations for wiretaps) is being used -- but the Justice
 > Department does helpfully provide a hypothetical example of how it might be
 > used.
 >
 >


There's little question the GOP is the party of Big Brother.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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WaIIy

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:12 am
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:42:16 -0400, Harry Krause
<piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

 >There's little question the GOP is the party of Big Brother.

Hmmm, no democrats voted for the Patriot Act? LOL<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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