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Since: Dec 21, 2006 Posts: 20
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:08 pm
Post subject: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Paint question Archived from groups: rec>boats>building (more info?)
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I am in the planning stage of refinish my deck. Sailboat, 30 plus feet.
The deck is the original non skid. Ok shape after 30 years.
I checked with Interlux. They sell a one part paint for non skid. I like
that because two part paints are so weather conditional and I
am doing the work in the spring.
Now for the question .. the primer. Interlux sells a two part primer which
seems very sweet. It is an epoxy primer.
The write-up says it will get into the little cracks, etc and that would be
good. But will it be compatible with the one part finish?
And is it worth while using a two part paint with a one part finish?
Interlux also has a one part primer that seems good.
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Since: Mar 24, 2004 Posts: 71
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Paint [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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NE Sailboat wrote:
>I am in the planning stage of refinish my deck. Sailboat, 30 plus feet.
>
>The deck is the original non skid. Ok shape after 30 years.
>
>I checked with Interlux. They sell a one part paint for non skid. I like
>that because two part paints are so weather conditional and I
>am doing the work in the spring.
>
>Now for the question .. the primer. Interlux sells a two part primer which
>seems very sweet. It is an epoxy primer.
>
>The write-up says it will get into the little cracks, etc and that would be
>good. But will it be compatible with the one part finish?
>
>And is it worth while using a two part paint with a one part finish?
>
>Interlux also has a one part primer that seems good.
>
>Any deck experts out there?
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epoxy primers, pretty much just solvent thinned epoxy, are a common
primer under just about all kinds of coatings.
yes, you must get something thin enough to get into those hairline
cracks. Most coatings just bridge over them. They are filled with air or
water and will open and close with temp - cutting back up thru any
coating to the surface. They also have a micro curl or lip on the edge
so are not really flat. If you just paint over them you might find this
'lip' still shows the crack under it.
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html >> Stay informed about: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Pai.. |
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Since: May 02, 2004 Posts: 20
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Paint [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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NE Sailboat wrote:
> I am in the planning stage of refinish my deck. Sailboat, 30 plus feet.
>
> The deck is the original non skid. Ok shape after 30 years.
>
> I checked with Interlux. They sell a one part paint for non skid. I like
> that because two part paints are so weather conditional and I
> am doing the work in the spring.
>
> Now for the question .. the primer. Interlux sells a two part primer which
> seems very sweet. It is an epoxy primer.
>
> The write-up says it will get into the little cracks, etc and that would be
> good. But will it be compatible with the one part finish?
>
> And is it worth while using a two part paint with a one part finish?
>
> Interlux also has a one part primer that seems good.
>
> Any deck experts out there?
>
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>
If you want the job to last you *must* use a 2 part LPU... One part paints are
not tough enough for deck work, especially the non-skid areas.
I suggest you take a look at:
http://www.anzam.com/howto_index_004.htm
Deck and non-skid are covered towards the bottom of the article.
We have used this method for over 12 years and never had a failure, or
disappointed customer.
Brian C
(to reply direct add an ell after the name cee) >> Stay informed about: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Pai.. |
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Since: Dec 21, 2006 Posts: 20
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Paint question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Paul ,, followup question:
Once I lay down the two part epoxy primer, over the non skid original
gelcoat deck .. :: will I be able to prep the two part epoxy primer with
bronze wool? The guides I have read say to use bronze wool, not sand paper
because of the non skid surface. Will the two part primer just need to be
bronze wooled and then cleaned, then put down the one part non skid deck
finish?
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"Paul Oman" <info DeleteThis @epoxyproducts.com> wrote in message
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> NE Sailboat wrote:
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>>I am in the planning stage of refinish my deck. Sailboat, 30 plus feet.
>>
>>The deck is the original non skid. Ok shape after 30 years.
>>
>>I checked with Interlux. They sell a one part paint for non skid. I like
>>that because two part paints are so weather conditional and I
>>am doing the work in the spring.
>>
>>Now for the question .. the primer. Interlux sells a two part primer
>>which
>>seems very sweet. It is an epoxy primer.
>>
>>The write-up says it will get into the little cracks, etc and that would
>>be
>>good. But will it be compatible with the one part finish?
>>
>>And is it worth while using a two part paint with a one part finish?
>>
>>Interlux also has a one part primer that seems good.
>>
>>Any deck experts out there?
>>
>>
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> epoxy primers, pretty much just solvent thinned epoxy, are a common
> primer under just about all kinds of coatings.
>
> yes, you must get something thin enough to get into those hairline cracks.
> Most coatings just bridge over them. They are filled with air or water and
> will open and close with temp - cutting back up thru any coating to the
> surface. They also have a micro curl or lip on the edge so are not really
> flat. If you just paint over them you might find this 'lip' still shows
> the crack under it.
>
>
> paul oman
> progressive epoxy polymers
> www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html
> >> Stay informed about: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Pai.. |
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Since: Mar 24, 2004 Posts: 71
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Paint [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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NE Sailboat wrote:
>Paul ,, followup question:
>Once I lay down the two part epoxy primer, over the non skid original
>gelcoat deck .. :: will I be able to prep the two part epoxy primer with
>bronze wool? The guides I have read say to use bronze wool, not sand paper
>because of the non skid surface. Will the two part primer just need to be
>bronze wooled and then cleaned, then put down the one part non skid deck
>finish?
>
>
>
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The epoxies (thinned as a primer or used solvent free) all take about a
week to completely cure even if they feel dry/hard in a few hours. If
you topcoat them with more epoxy or another product within that 'window'
you will get a bit of chemical bonding between the layers (at least
that's the theory) besides the ordinary mechanical bond.
I suspect they suggest bronze wool is that 1) sandpaper might sand right
thru the thin primer coat, 2) unlike steel wool, the bronze ''trash'
will not rust. 3) nothing wrong with scuffing up the surface a bit
before the next coating product, although I think it is rarely done. I
don't think I would bother if it was my project.
paul
progressive epoxy polymers
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>"Paul Oman" <info DeleteThis @epoxyproducts.com> wrote in message
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>>NE Sailboat wrote:
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>>>I am in the planning stage of refinish my deck. Sailboat, 30 plus feet.
>>>
>>>The deck is the original non skid. Ok shape after 30 years.
>>>
>>>I checked with Interlux. They sell a one part paint for non skid. I like
>>>that because two part paints are so weather conditional and I
>>>am doing the work in the spring.
>>>
>>>Now for the question .. the primer. Interlux sells a two part primer
>>>which
>>>seems very sweet. It is an epoxy primer.
>>>
>>>The write-up says it will get into the little cracks, etc and that would
>>>be
>>>good. But will it be compatible with the one part finish?
>>>
>>>And is it worth while using a two part paint with a one part finish?
>>>
>>>Interlux also has a one part primer that seems good.
>>>
>>>Any deck experts out there?
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>epoxy primers, pretty much just solvent thinned epoxy, are a common
>>primer under just about all kinds of coatings.
>>
>>yes, you must get something thin enough to get into those hairline cracks.
>>Most coatings just bridge over them. They are filled with air or water and
>>will open and close with temp - cutting back up thru any coating to the
>>surface. They also have a micro curl or lip on the edge so are not really
>>flat. If you just paint over them you might find this 'lip' still shows
>>the crack under it.
>>
>>
>>paul oman
>>progressive epoxy polymers
>>www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html
>>
>>
>>
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Since: Jun 12, 2004 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Paint question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I painted a hard bimini top I made with Interlux 2 part primer, followed by
Interlux Perfection, 2 part polyurethane, with Intergrip nonskid mixed in.
This worked very well, but the fumes from the primer are right strong.
"NE Sailboat" <tomcatm DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I am in the planning stage of refinish my deck. Sailboat, 30 plus feet.
>
> The deck is the original non skid. Ok shape after 30 years.
>
> I checked with Interlux. They sell a one part paint for non skid. I like
> that because two part paints are so weather conditional and I
> am doing the work in the spring.
>
> Now for the question .. the primer. Interlux sells a two part primer
> which
> seems very sweet. It is an epoxy primer.
>
> The write-up says it will get into the little cracks, etc and that would
> be
> good. But will it be compatible with the one part finish?
>
> And is it worth while using a two part paint with a one part finish?
>
> Interlux also has a one part primer that seems good.
>
> Any deck experts out there?
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Refinish Deck Question , for sailboat ,, for spring ,, Pai.. |
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