Sales and Installation of VHF Marine Radio

On 10 Mar 2005 06:33:22 -0800, "Faz" <fazooly.DeleteThis@rogers.com> wrote:

 >I have recently purchased a new boat and now want to have a VHF Marine
 >radio installed.
 >
 >I live in the Oshawa area, about 1/2 hour East of Toronto.
 >
 >I boat in the Balsam Lake area out of Rosedale.
 >
 >Can anyone recommend a good place where I can purchase, and have
 >installed, a VHF Marine radio.
 >
 >I will have GPS capabilities, so I would like the radio with DSC, to be
 >hooked into my GPS.
 >
 >Thank you in advance for any help.
 >
 >Reg.

See Jim's post for comments re: the radio.

Check out
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.marinasontario.com/" target="_blank">http://www.marinasontario.com/</a>
for suppliers and installers

The Oshawa Power Squadron site is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.oshawapss.ca/." target="_blank">http://www.oshawapss.ca/.</a> They will
offer the course and licence or recommend a local examiner.

Humber College has some courses in the near future
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.sailing.humberc.on.ca/boat023.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sailing.humberc.on.ca/boat023.htm</a>

Your Restricted Operator's Certificate will also include a DSC / GMDSS
endorsement.

Jack

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Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
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Thank you Jim and Jack.

I am aware of the need for a Restricted Radio Operators Lic. Both, my
son and I, are scheduled to take the course through the Oshawa Power
Squadron in May.

Thanks for the tips.
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Thank you Karl,

I will definitely check into that. Much appreciated.

Reg


Karl Pollak wrote:
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 > Jim Thompson <jimnews.DeleteThis@jimthompson.net> wrote:
 >
  > >I recommend that you look for a DSC class 4 VHF model.
  > >
  > >To use marine radios on recreational boats, people must have the
  > >Restricted Operators Certificate (Marine). The Canadian Power and
  > >Sail Squadrons offer that course. There is an active Squadron in
  > >Ottawa. Their members will be happy to advise you about local
  > >supplier options too.
 >
 > Right.
 > Of course you could also forget about the course, download the study
guide
 > directly from the government website and write the exam. The
difference is
 > that you pay the Squadron for a course you really do not need if you
have
 > at least 3 brain cells to rub together, and they are not allowed to
charge
 > for the exam. You can write the exam without any course.
 >
 > I appreciate you posting that advice Jim, but if you are going to
post
 > information, please post the complete information. The way you did it
 > looked way too much like a revenue generator advert for the Squadron.
 >
 > If the fellow looks at the study guide and decides he'd rather take
the
 > course anyway, more power to him. This way at least he has a choice.
 >
 > --
 > Greetings from Lotusland<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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To further clarify this whole thing...

I have searched the net and have visited the Ontario Government site.
It seems there is a home study course, but you do still have to take a
test with a certified tester at the end of the course.

I can only find sites that charge $$ for the course material and info.
As well, the info I CAN find on the net is from 1990 or 1997. Not sure
if there is any more current than that.

Reg
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"Karl Pollak" <guser DeleteThis @nospam.org> wrote
 > Jim Thompson <jimnews DeleteThis @jimthompson.net> wrote:
 >
  > >I recommend that you look for a DSC class 4 VHF model.
  > >
  > >To use marine radios on recreational boats, people must have the
  > >Restricted Operators Certificate (Marine). The Canadian Power and
  > >Sail Squadrons offer that course. There is an active Squadron in
  > >Ottawa. Their members will be happy to advise you about local
  > >supplier options too.
 >
 > Right.
 > Of course you could also forget about the course, download the study guide
 > directly from the government website and write the exam. The difference
is
 > that you pay the Squadron for a course you really do not need if you have
 > at least 3 brain cells to rub together, and they are not allowed to charge
 > for the exam. You can write the exam without any course.
 >
 > I appreciate you posting that advice Jim, but if you are going to post
 > information, please post the complete information. The way you did it
 > looked way too much like a revenue generator advert for the Squadron.
 >
 > If the fellow looks at the study guide and decides he'd rather take the
 > course anyway, more power to him. This way at least he has a choice.
 >
 > --
 > Greetings from Lotusland

I agree completely with the manner in which Jim Thompson described a course
available to assist in obtaining a restricted operators license. It is
probably his experience, and it certainly is mine, that boaters as a whole
exhibit some of the worst radiotelephone communication skills imaginable,
equivalent to CB'rs on the highway at their worst. This comes from one
source: know-it-alls who could pass a test and still manage to have acquired
no skill sets in emergency maritime communications. Which is after all the
purpose for voluntarily carrying a vhf-marine radio, to be able to call for
AND provide assistance to marine emergencies whether your own or someone
else's.

If the licensing agencies were smart, they would forego the exam requirement
and require attendance at a class. The instructors of Power Squadron or
Coast Guard Auxiliary units have more than the latest information about safe
and responsible marine communications - they have the skill sets as
operators and instructors with the knowledge levels to pass on this
information in a useful manner to boaters. You won't find or acquire that
from a downloaded study guide no matter how savvy you think you are. Take
the course, whether you are already an experienced boater or just starting
out. You'll benefit not only yourself, but others who may one day rely on
your communications skills..

Best regards, and have a safe boating season,

Jack Painter
USCG Auxiliary
Communications Officer, Division 5, ports of
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:16:54 GMT, guser.DeleteThis@nospam.org (Karl Pollak)
wrote:

 >x-no-archive: yes
 >Jim Thompson <jimnews.DeleteThis@jimthompson.net> wrote:
 >
  >>I recommend that you look for a DSC class 4 VHF model.
  >>
  >>To use marine radios on recreational boats, people must have the
  >>Restricted Operators Certificate (Marine). The Canadian Power and
  >>Sail Squadrons offer that course. There is an active Squadron in
  >>Ottawa. Their members will be happy to advise you about local
  >>supplier options too.
 >
 >Right.
 >Of course you could also forget about the course, download the study guide
 >directly from the government website and write the exam. The difference is
 >that you pay the Squadron for a course you really do not need if you have
 >at least 3 brain cells to rub together, and they are not allowed to charge
 >for the exam. You can write the exam without any course.

Last I looked, the Government website indicated that the Radio
Operator requirements document (RIC-23?) has been withdrawn, and
people are now referred to the Canadian Power Squadrons for operator
certificate information. The CPS Maritime Radio Operator manual can
be purchased for self-study, or you can take a course from CPS or
other providers the other providers will use the CPS manual.

CPS is now authorised to charge an administration fee of $15 to cover
their expenses in issuing the operator's certificate on behalf of
Industry Canada. CPS receives no government funding for operating the
Radio Operator Certificate program. Some squadrons may charge an
additional administration fee to the national $15 to cover their local
expenses.

 >
 >I appreciate you posting that advice Jim, but if you are going to post
 >information, please post the complete information. The way you did it
 >looked way too much like a revenue generator advert for the Squadron.
 >
 >If the fellow looks at the study guide and decides he'd rather take the
 >course anyway, more power to him. This way at least he has a choice.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
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GPS and NMEA info: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter" target="_blank">http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter</a>
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"Faz" <fazooly DeleteThis @rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1110489276.860310.263520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
 > Thank you Jim and Jack.
 >
 > I am aware of the need for a Restricted Radio Operators Lic. Both, my
 > son and I, are scheduled to take the course through the Oshawa Power
 > Squadron in May.
 >
 > Thanks for the tips.
 >

Hi! One cautionary note, I thought that the use of VHF marine radios was
restricted to vessels only. Were you going to use it at your home or
cottage?

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I will be using it on my vessel.

Reg

OldSteveH wrote:
 > "Faz" <fazooly RemoveThis @rogers.com> wrote in message
 > news:1110489276.860310.263520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
  > > Thank you Jim and Jack.
  > >
  > > I am aware of the need for a Restricted Radio Operators Lic. Both,
my
  > > son and I, are scheduled to take the course through the Oshawa
Power
  > > Squadron in May.
  > >
  > > Thanks for the tips.
  > >
 >
 > Hi! One cautionary note, I thought that the use of VHF marine radios
was
 > restricted to vessels only. Were you going to use it at your home or
 > cottage?
 >
 > Steve<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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