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vpolitico

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:31 pm
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:16:46 GMT, John Kuthe <johnkuthe DeleteThis @earthlink.net>
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 >River Wild wrote:
  >>
  >> Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
  >> kayak before?
 >[snip]
 >
 >No. When I first got into kayaking, I posed this questions and was told
 >(and I agree with!) that since a kayak is like a part of your body,
 >unless you are in the habit of naming parts of your body (some people
 >are, but I don't do that either!), that it's completely inappropriate to
 >name your kayak.

I think he was telling you not to name your boat "Johnson".<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:46 am
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Me thinks that it is one of those situations where if you have to ask, you
don't have the courage to go ahead and do it without community consensus.
And on this board, looking for community consensus is certain recipe for
failure (thank the good lord!)

I'm of similar mind to John Kuthe's post, but not his summation: I'd suggest
that many do have a name for their kayak but, like their name for certain
parts of their body, they seldom share it with any but their closest
friends, keeping the name for their own private enjoyment. Opposite to
Oci's guy with the "MY Z80"

Padeen




"River Wild" <web_jcman.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
 > kayak before? I think it is fun to give certain things a name, like
 > cars and boats and stuff. My kayak doesn't yet have a name as I have
 > never thought of something good enough for it, but I'm thinking of
 > it.... Hehe.
 >
 > (And I think I'm gonna have to start calling my SUV "MooCar" 'cause I
 > put cow-spotted foam [which I got at the craft store] around the roof
 > rack rails to keep my kayak from slipping when it is on them! It's a
 > pretty funny sight! My kayak is not cow-spotted, however, so I cannot
 > call it "MooYak".)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:43 am
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John Kuthe <johnkuthe DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in
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 > River Wild wrote:
  >>
  >> Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
  >> kayak before?
 > [snip]
 >
 > No. When I first got into kayaking, I posed this questions and was told
 > (and I agree with!) that since a kayak is like a part of your body,
 > unless you are in the habit of naming parts of your body (some people
 > are, but I don't do that either!), that it's completely inappropriate to
 > name your kayak.

I heard the same thing and it is based on traditional kayakers that used
their boats for hunting. The kayak wasn't just an extension of their body.
The kayaks that greenlanders built (and still do) are sized based on their
body size, and in fact various body parts are used to determine the
dimensions (okay, no quips about the size of the cockpit). As traditional
greenlanders used their kayaks for sustenance their primary existance was
directly tied to their boat. Giving it a name was thought of as giving it a
separate entity, and as hunters, their kayak was part of who they were.

That said, I've built a couple of wood kayaks and if I build another I'm
really tempted to call it "Sportin' Wood".<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:43 am
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John Fereira <jaf30 DeleteThis @cornell.edu> wrote in message news:<Xns9432B4585367Ejaf30cornelledu DeleteThis @132.236.56.8>...
 > John Kuthe <johnkuthe DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in
 > news:3FB3AEA5.E60BF15D@earthlink.net:
 >
  > > River Wild wrote:
   > >>
   > >> Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
   > >> kayak before?
  > > [snip]
  > >
  > > No. When I first got into kayaking, I posed this questions and was told
  > > (and I agree with!) that since a kayak is like a part of your body,
  > > unless you are in the habit of naming parts of your body (some people
  > > are, but I don't do that either!), that it's completely inappropriate to
  > > name your kayak.
 >
 > I heard the same thing and it is based on traditional kayakers that used
 > their boats for hunting. The kayak wasn't just an extension of their body.
 > The kayaks that greenlanders built (and still do) are sized based on their
 > body size, and in fact various body parts are used to determine the
 > dimensions (okay, no quips about the size of the cockpit). As traditional
 > greenlanders used their kayaks for sustenance their primary existance was
 > directly tied to their boat. Giving it a name was thought of as giving it a
 > separate entity, and as hunters, their kayak was part of who they were.
 >
 > That said, I've built a couple of wood kayaks and if I build another I'm
 > really tempted to call it "Sportin' Wood".

i have named my kayak ( a fiber glass capella ) i will not say what it
is called.
p & h have named the boat. wilderness systems names boats; all the
manufacturers name their creations, why not us.
a friend bought a sail boat from a crusty older fellow. semper fi, was
the name on it.
i was taken, i asked him why he named his boat semper fi? he said "no
that is semper from florida."
i told him it was semper fi; asked if the gentleman he bought it from
was a soldier. he thought so. i told him it was short for semper
fidelis ( latin for always faithfull:)
i was delighted .
he changed the name to temptation.
please forgive any spelling errors if you are with the u s m c.
thought you guys would like this.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:21 am
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riverman wrote:
 > You're a GUY and you don't name parts of your body??
 > Wow, me and old Sasquatch are laughing at that one.

Yes, I am a guy, and no, I do not name parts of my body. I find it kinda
silly that some do. Part of a childish uncomfortablenes with those
parts, I suppose. Dunno.

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:28 am
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John Fereira wrote:
 >
 > I heard the same thing and it is based on traditional kayakers that used
 > their boats for hunting. The kayak wasn't just an extension of their body.
 > The kayaks that greenlanders built (and still do) are sized based on their
 > body size, and in fact various body parts are used to determine the
 > dimensions (okay, no quips about the size of the cockpit). As traditional
 > greenlanders used their kayaks for sustenance their primary existance was
 > directly tied to their boat. Giving it a name was thought of as giving it a
 > separate entity, and as hunters, their kayak was part of who they were.

That's kinda how I feel about it too. I don't name my kayak, cause that
would somehow imply that it was a separate entity from me, and I don't
feel that way about my kayak. My kayak is, to me, like a pair of pants.
When I "put it on", it becomes a part of me.

I do however name my vehicles! Or began to when I got a big ole 1985 3/4
ton Chevy Suburban. I names it Beastie, cause it was. (Shortened from
"The Beast" over time.) Then I had Beastie II, my second, less beastly
Suburban, an 1990 1/2 ton. And my current vehicle, a pretty liitle red
Caravan I call "Baby". She's a sweetheart too! Smile


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Ken Ferschweiler

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:45 am
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John Kuthe (johnkuthe@earthlink.net) wrote:
: River Wild wrote:
: >
: > Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
: > kayak before?
: [snip]

: Do you name your clothes? Your shoes? Etc.? Then why name your kayak?

Only reason I can think of is that it makes it a little
easier to make a VHF radio call.

-Ken
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Dan Valleskey

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:18 am
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:10:47 GMT, vpolitico.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
 >
 >It's name? (Borrowed from a bicycle movement favoring the old
 >materials and designs) - "The Retrogrouch".

A Bridgestone fan, by chance? I still have two.


As to names for a boat-

If it happens, it happens. While still single, I stored my boats in
the dining room. My Jensen 17 poked into the living room a bit. Over
a few beers one evening, while trying to look over the bow of the
Jensen to see the guy sitting across the room, Linda Ronstat named my
fast baby blue Wenonah- the Blue-By-You.

Only boat I've ever named, I guess.


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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:09 pm
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 4:15 am
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padeen wrote:

[nothing, as was most approps!]

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 3:37 pm
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ffstirling DeleteThis @excite.com (Fiona) wrote in
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 > John Fereira <jaf30 DeleteThis @cornell.edu> wrote in message
 > news:<Xns9432B4585367Ejaf30cornelledu DeleteThis @132.236.56.8>...
  >> John Kuthe <johnkuthe DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in
  >> news:3FB3AEA5.E60BF15D@earthlink.net:
  >>
   >> > River Wild wrote:
   >> >>
   >> >> Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
   >> >> kayak before?
   >> > [snip]
   >> >
   >> > No. When I first got into kayaking, I posed this questions and was
   >> > told (and I agree with!) that since a kayak is like a part of your
   >> > body, unless you are in the habit of naming parts of your body (some
   >> > people are, but I don't do that either!), that it's completely
   >> > inappropriate to name your kayak.
  >>
  >> I heard the same thing and it is based on traditional kayakers that
  >> used their boats for hunting. The kayak wasn't just an extension of
  >> their body. The kayaks that greenlanders built (and still do) are
  >> sized based on their body size, and in fact various body parts are
  >> used to determine the dimensions (okay, no quips about the size of the
  >> cockpit). As traditional greenlanders used their kayaks for
  >> sustenance their primary existance was directly tied to their boat.
  >> Giving it a name was thought of as giving it a separate entity, and as
  >> hunters, their kayak was part of who they were.
  >>
  >> That said, I've built a couple of wood kayaks and if I build another
  >> I'm really tempted to call it "Sportin' Wood".
 >
 > i have named my kayak ( a fiber glass capella ) i will not say what it
 > is called.
 > p & h have named the boat. wilderness systems names boats; all the
 > manufacturers name their creations, why not us.

Technically, manufacturers don't name their boats but name models of boats.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:56 am
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I named my strip-built touring kayak the "Haqjauk" ( inuit for "arrow")
after the arrow pattern in the strips that form the deck. My
strip-built canoe is the "Five Bucks" because of the kingfisher on the
bow ( the Canadian 5 dollar bill used to have a kingfisher on the back
until they changed it recently). My plastic canoe is "Scar Face"
because of a large scar along the side, a reminder of a small mishap in
a parking lot just before a run....

Ask a silly question, I have the silly answers.... Surprised)


Clurrie
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There is no day on the river so bad that you'd rather be at work...


River Wild wrote:

 >Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
 >kayak before? I think it is fun to give certain things a name, like
 >cars and boats and stuff. My kayak doesn't yet have a name as I have
 >never thought of something good enough for it, but I'm thinking of
 >it.... Hehe.
 >
 >(And I think I'm gonna have to start calling my SUV "MooCar" 'cause I
 >put cow-spotted foam [which I got at the craft store] around the roof
 >rack rails to keep my kayak from slipping when it is on them! It's a
 >pretty funny sight! My kayak is not cow-spotted, however, so I cannot
 >call it "MooYak".)
 >
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:18 pm
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"riverman" <nospam.RemoveThis@sorry.com> typed:

 > "John Kuthe" <johnkuthe.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
 > news:3FB3AEA5.E60BF15D@earthlink.net...
  > > River Wild wrote:
   > > >
   > > > Okay, this is a silly question, but has anybody here ever "named" a
   > > > kayak before?
  > > [snip]
  > >
  > > No. When I first got into kayaking, I posed this questions and was told
  > > (and I agree with!) that since a kayak is like a part of your body,
  > > unless you are in the habit of naming parts of your body (some people
  > > are, but I don't do that either!), that it's completely inappropriate to
  > > name your kayak.
  > >
  > > Do you name your clothes? Your shoes? Etc.? Then why name your kayak?
 >
 > You're a GUY and you don't name parts of your body??
 >
 > Wow, me and old Sasquatch are laughing at that one.
 >
 > --riverman
 > .
 > .
 > .
 > .
 > .
 > .
 > (he's my left foot. Its two sizes bigger than my right)


Myron, that was FUNNY (with or without the -- ahem -- footnote)! A
bit too subtle for our boy, evidently, but WTH; *I* got it!


-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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