Sit On Top Plans now available

Jim Conlin <conlin.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<408B3BBD.EEF6F375.DeleteThis@comcast.net>...
 > This is beginning to sound like commercial advertising.
 >
 > On posts which contribute expertise or special insight on a problem, a
 > tasteful trailer with a tag line and a web link is generally tolerated . An
 > announcement of a hard-to-find item, like okoume ply in Oklahoma or 1/8" WRC
 > veneer would be, too.
 >
 > Yet another tacky CAD rendering of an un-built, un-tested design we can live
 > without.

Amen.


 >
 >
 >
 > Matt Langenfeld wrote:
 >
  > > Greetings Builders,
  > >
  > > A fine day to build your own Sit On Top kayak isn't it? We're mighty
  > > proud of her as the VERY FIRST set of SOT kayak plans available.
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=CFSOT16</font" target="_blank">http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=CFSOT16</font</a>>
  > >
  > > This one is a big one: almost 16' long and 31" wide. She's made for
  > > stability and can carry a big load. Great for fishing. We'll follow up
  > > with 2 other versions:
  > >
  > > -14' and 28" wide
  > > -12" and 26" wide
  > >
  > > After that, some new styles of SOTs with different hull shapes.
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > >
  > > --
  > > Matt Langenfeld
  > > JEM Watercraft
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://jem.e-boat.net/</font" target="_blank">http://jem.e-boat.net/</font</a>><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Sit On Top Plans now available 

The hull was built and tested as a sit-inside. Prototype SOT almost
complete. Pictures soon.

I beleive this is the first set of SOT plans available anywhere...that
I'm aware of.

Thanks


Jim Conlin wrote:
 > This is beginning to sound like commercial advertising.
 >
 > On posts which contribute expertise or special insight on a problem, a
 > tasteful trailer with a tag line and a web link is generally tolerated . An
 > announcement of a hard-to-find item, like okoume ply in Oklahoma or 1/8" WRC
 > veneer would be, too.
 >
 > Yet another tacky CAD rendering of an un-built, un-tested design we can live
 > without.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Sit On Top Plans now available 

You know what, I gave it some thought. Perhaps I will stop announcing
new plans. Maybe just refer to them if someone asks about a type of
design I have.

Appologies to those I've offended.

Matt

--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://jem.e-boat.net/" target="_blank">http://jem.e-boat.net/</a>

Jim Conlin wrote:
 > This is beginning to sound like commercial advertising.
 >
 > On posts which contribute expertise or special insight on a problem, a
 > tasteful trailer with a tag line and a web link is generally tolerated . An
 > announcement of a hard-to-find item, like okoume ply in Oklahoma or 1/8" WRC
 > veneer would be, too.
 >
 > Yet another tacky CAD rendering of an un-built, un-tested design we can live
 > without.
 >
 >
 >
 > Matt Langenfeld wrote:
 >
 >
  >>Greetings Builders,
  >>
  >>A fine day to build your own Sit On Top kayak isn't it? We're mighty
  >>proud of her as the VERY FIRST set of SOT kayak plans available.
  >>
  >>http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=CFSOT16
  >>
  >>This one is a big one: almost 16' long and 31" wide. She's made for
  >>stability and can carry a big load. Great for fishing. We'll follow up
  >>with 2 other versions:
  >>
  >>-14' and 28" wide
  >>-12" and 26" wide
  >>
  >>After that, some new styles of SOTs with different hull shapes.
  >><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Sit On Top Plans now available 

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 04:14:26 GMT, Jim Conlin <conlin.RemoveThis@comcast.net>
wrote:

 >This is beginning to sound like commercial advertising.
 >
 >On posts which contribute expertise or special insight on a problem, a
 >tasteful trailer with a tag line and a web link is generally tolerated . An
 >announcement of a hard-to-find item, like okoume ply in Oklahoma or 1/8" WRC
 >veneer would be, too.
 >
 >Yet another tacky CAD rendering of an un-built, un-tested design we can live
 >without.
 >
I disagree. Matt is a contributing participant in this newsgroup who
frequently chips in comments and help on subjects that do not affect
his business. If he wants to announce a new design his company is
selling, that's great with me. I would be happy to read the
occasional announcement from Steve Baker, Jacques Mertens, or any
other plan producer who contributes to r.b.b.

If someone wants to drop in to post spam and then disappear, I'm with
Jim.

- Rick Tyler

--
"Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the
depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rick Tyler wrote:

 > I disagree. Matt is a contributing participant in this newsgroup who
 > frequently chips in comments and help on subjects that do not affect
 > his business. If he wants to announce a new design his company is
 > selling, that's great with me. I would be happy to read the
 > occasional announcement from Steve Baker, Jacques Mertens, or any
 > other plan producer who contributes to r.b.b.
 >
 > If someone wants to drop in to post spam and then disappear, I'm with
 > Jim.

I am with you. Actually we went through this several months ago. There
is nothing in the charter for this news group that prohibits commercial
posts. It has become a custom here to limit it to anouncements by
regular participants which Matt qualifies as.

Unfortunately because of some self appointed newsgroup police we have
lost a number of valuable resources in the past. I had hoped that we
learn from experience.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.rutuonline.com" target="_blank">http://www.rutuonline.com</a>
Shameless Commercial Division: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.spade-anchor-us.com" target="_blank">http://www.spade-anchor-us.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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and besides,

if you buy one of my plans, you get naked pictures of various female
celebrities and your private parts will grow by 3 inches!

lol...sorry. Couldn't resist.

--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://jem.e-boat.net/" target="_blank">http://jem.e-boat.net/</a>

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
 >
 >
 > Rick Tyler wrote:
 >
  >> I disagree. Matt is a contributing participant in this newsgroup who
  >> frequently chips in comments and help on subjects that do not affect
  >> his business. If he wants to announce a new design his company is
  >> selling, that's great with me. I would be happy to read the
  >> occasional announcement from Steve Baker, Jacques Mertens, or any
  >> other plan producer who contributes to r.b.b.
  >>
  >> If someone wants to drop in to post spam and then disappear, I'm with
  >> Jim.
 >
 >
 > I am with you. Actually we went through this several months ago. There
 > is nothing in the charter for this news group that prohibits commercial
 > posts. It has become a custom here to limit it to anouncements by
 > regular participants which Matt qualifies as.
 >
 > Unfortunately because of some self appointed newsgroup police we have
 > lost a number of valuable resources in the past. I had hoped that we
 > learn from experience.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Sit On Top Plans now available 

Glenn Ashmore (gashmore3@cox.net) writes:

 > Unfortunately because of some self appointed newsgroup police we have
 > lost a number of valuable resources in the past. I had hoped that we
 > learn from experience.

what this newsgroup lost were promoters who discouraged (and
that's putting it mildly) discussion of alternatives.

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Matt Langenfeld (info@no-spam-jemwatercraft.com) writes:
 > and besides,
 >
 > if you buy one of my plans, you get naked pictures of various female
 > celebrities and your private parts will grow by 3 inches!

is that homophobic?


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Matt Langenfeld <info.TakeThisOut@no-spam-jemwatercraft.com> wrote in message news:<6PNic.1625$g31.806@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
 > You know what, I gave it some thought. Perhaps I will stop announcing
 > new plans. Maybe just refer to them if someone asks about a type of
 > design I have.
 >
 > Appologies to those I've offended.
 >
 > Matt

That's what I do. And if I do happen to have something that I feel
fits the bill, unless it is a general question by various members of
the group, I contact them off list.
Scotty, from, well, er, um, ahhhh forget it, go build a boat...


 >
 > --
 > Matt Langenfeld
 > JEM Watercraft
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://jem.e-boat.net/</font" target="_blank">http://jem.e-boat.net/</font</a>>
 >
 > Jim Conlin wrote:
  > > This is beginning to sound like commercial advertising.
  > >
  > > On posts which contribute expertise or special insight on a problem, a
  > > tasteful trailer with a tag line and a web link is generally tolerated . An
  > > announcement of a hard-to-find item, like okoume ply in Oklahoma or 1/8" WRC
  > > veneer would be, too.
  > >
  > > Yet another tacky CAD rendering of an un-built, un-tested design we can live
  > > without.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Matt Langenfeld wrote:
  > >
  > >
   > >>Greetings Builders,
   > >>
   > >>A fine day to build your own Sit On Top kayak isn't it? We're mighty
   > >>proud of her as the VERY FIRST set of SOT kayak plans available.
   > >>
   > >>http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=CFSOT16
   > >>
   > >>This one is a big one: almost 16' long and 31" wide. She's made for
   > >>stability and can carry a big load. Great for fishing. We'll follow up
   > >>with 2 other versions:
   > >>
   > >>-14' and 28" wide
   > >>-12" and 26" wide
   > >>
   > >>After that, some new styles of SOTs with different hull shapes.
   > >><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Sit On Top Plans now available 

On 26 Apr 2004 11:38:57 GMT, ag384.RemoveThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R.
Watt) wrote:

>Matt Langenfeld (info@no-spam-jemwatercraft.com) writes:
>> and besides,
>>
>> if you buy one of my plans, you get naked pictures of various female
>> celebrities and your private parts will grow by 3 inches!
>
>is that homophobic?

Not if you are female.

Brian W
 >> Stay informed about: Sit On Top Plans now available 

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:54:55 GMT, Brian Whatcott
<betwys1.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>>>your private parts will grow by 3 inches!

>if you are female.

Now that's....no...
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ag384 DeleteThis @FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R. Watt) wrote in message news:<c6is62$1lq$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
 > Glenn Ashmore (gashmore3@cox.net) writes:
 >
  > > Unfortunately because of some self appointed newsgroup police we have
  > > lost a number of valuable resources in the past. I had hoped that we
  > > learn from experience.
 >
 > what this newsgroup lost were promoters who discouraged (and
 > that's putting it mildly) discussion of alternatives.

Sorry to disagree but I know for certain that Kern Hendricks from
System Three doesn't post anymnore because of the flaming. He provided
valuable information about epoxy in general.
The anti business attitude of some users results in the loss of good
contributors.
This has an historical base considering that the Usenet started as a
tool to exchange information between universities, a place where free
entreprise is not welcome and where capitalist ideas are censored.
It's time to grow up, professionals can be a great asset to this
group. Would you refuse advice from your doctor or lawyer because he
charges for his services?
The advice and information given here by professionals is free, it is
only normal that they state who they are and what they sell.
It is not a sin to be a boating professional!


Jacques from bateau.com<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Jacques, I have greatly valued the contributions of you and Kern and others. Your professional
qualifications add credibility to your generous advice, and you never let the your business interest become
the primary message. I don't think that i've mentioned, much less promoted, my boatbuilding business here,
and I won't.

I begin to have a problem when someone's message is not one of knowledgeable help with a boatbuilding issue
but instead touting a mundane product.

I hope that you will continue to contribute your wisdom and I wish that Kern would return. We don't now
have someone knowledgeable about epoxy or LPU finishes.
Jim


Jacques wrote:

 > ag384.DeleteThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R. Watt) wrote in message news:<c6is62$1lq$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
  > > Glenn Ashmore (gashmore3@cox.net) writes:
  > >
   > > > Unfortunately because of some self appointed newsgroup police we have
   > > > lost a number of valuable resources in the past. I had hoped that we
   > > > learn from experience.
  > >
  > > what this newsgroup lost were promoters who discouraged (and
  > > that's putting it mildly) discussion of alternatives.
 >
 > Sorry to disagree but I know for certain that Kern Hendricks from
 > System Three doesn't post anymnore because of the flaming. He provided
 > valuable information about epoxy in general.
 > The anti business attitude of some users results in the loss of good
 > contributors.
 > This has an historical base considering that the Usenet started as a
 > tool to exchange information between universities, a place where free
 > entreprise is not welcome and where capitalist ideas are censored.
 > It's time to grow up, professionals can be a great asset to this
 > group. Would you refuse advice from your doctor or lawyer because he
 > charges for his services?
 > The advice and information given here by professionals is free, it is
 > only normal that they state who they are and what they sell.
 > It is not a sin to be a boating professional!
 >
 > Jacques from bateau.com<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Sit On Top Plans now available