Windermere: Increase the pressure

In message <apb920117nfjnv3gno1c0n7erivjribtef.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, martin
<me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> writes
 >On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 08:59:37 -0000, "SeanD."
 ><stick_two_fingers_up.DeleteThis@spammers.com> wrote:
 >
  >>
  >>"Nick" <norfolk-n-hope.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
  >>news:c00q4l$11nb79$1@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de...
   >>> In the light of recent developments (the safety report on the lake
   >>> that undermined the bylaw, the Audit Commissions damning criticism of
   >>> the National Parks management etc), the Windermere Action Force are
   >>> trying to increase the pressure on the government and the National
   >>> Park Authority.
   >>>
   >>> With that in mind, there is now an easy and free way to fax your MP
   >>> with a letter of your wording just by following the link below:
   >>>
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html</font</a>>
   >>>
   >>> Be sure to include your name and address otherwise your MP will not
   >>> count it as valid.
   >>>
   >>> It only takes as long as it takes you to type it and costs you
   >>> nothing. So no matter how frequently you use Windermere, please get
   >>> faxing and let the government know the strength of feeling out there...
  >>
  >>Nick @ Norfolk?
  >>- why should we campaign for speedboats to cut up one of our beautiful Lakes
  >>for the likes of you?
  >>Outsiders only visit this area with the aim of disrupting our sedate way of
  >>life.
  >>
  >>I, as a Cumbrian don't want the Lake district turning into a pseudo lane of
  >>the M6.
  >>
  >>I'm sure that there are plenty of watercourses near to Norfolk where you can
  >>display your skills. So get stuffed.
 >
 >If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
 >yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
 >boaters.
 >
 >In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
 >water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.

I wish speed boaters would do the same in France. Fortunately there
aren't many of them, but they're a nuisance when they're around - and
I'm in a 14 tonne steel craft.
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 >> Stay informed about: Windermere: Increase the pressure 

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 08:59:37 -0000, "SeanD."
<stick_two_fingers_up.DeleteThis@spammers.com> wrote:

 >
 >"Nick" <norfolk-n-hope.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
 >news:c00q4l$11nb79$1@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de...
  >> In the light of recent developments (the safety report on the lake
  >> that undermined the bylaw, the Audit Commissions damning criticism of
  >> the National Parks management etc), the Windermere Action Force are
  >> trying to increase the pressure on the government and the National
  >> Park Authority.
  >>
  >> With that in mind, there is now an easy and free way to fax your MP
  >> with a letter of your wording just by following the link below:
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html</font</a>>
  >>
  >> Be sure to include your name and address otherwise your MP will not
  >> count it as valid.
  >>
  >> It only takes as long as it takes you to type it and costs you
  >> nothing. So no matter how frequently you use Windermere, please get
  >> faxing and let the government know the strength of feeling out there...
 >
 >Nick @ Norfolk?
 >- why should we campaign for speedboats to cut up one of our beautiful Lakes
 >for the likes of you?
 >Outsiders only visit this area with the aim of disrupting our sedate way of
 >life.
 >
 >I, as a Cumbrian don't want the Lake district turning into a pseudo lane of
 >the M6.
 >
 >I'm sure that there are plenty of watercourses near to Norfolk where you can
 >display your skills. So get stuffed.

If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
boaters.

In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.
--
Martin<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Windermere: Increase the pressure 

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:58:40 +0000, David Long <David RemoveThis @scars.org.uk>
wrote:

 >In message <apb920117nfjnv3gno1c0n7erivjribtef RemoveThis @4ax.com>, martin
 ><me RemoveThis @privacy.net> writes
  >>On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 08:59:37 -0000, "SeanD."
  >><stick_two_fingers_up RemoveThis @spammers.com> wrote:
  >>
   >>>
   >>>"Nick" <norfolk-n-hope RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
   >>>news:c00q4l$11nb79$1@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de...
   >>>> In the light of recent developments (the safety report on the lake
   >>>> that undermined the bylaw, the Audit Commissions damning criticism of
   >>>> the National Parks management etc), the Windermere Action Force are
   >>>> trying to increase the pressure on the government and the National
   >>>> Park Authority.
   >>>>
   >>>> With that in mind, there is now an easy and free way to fax your MP
   >>>> with a letter of your wording just by following the link below:
   >>>>
<font color=brown>   >>>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html</font</a>>
   >>>>
   >>>> Be sure to include your name and address otherwise your MP will not
   >>>> count it as valid.
   >>>>
   >>>> It only takes as long as it takes you to type it and costs you
   >>>> nothing. So no matter how frequently you use Windermere, please get
   >>>> faxing and let the government know the strength of feeling out there...
   >>>
   >>>Nick @ Norfolk?
   >>>- why should we campaign for speedboats to cut up one of our beautiful Lakes
   >>>for the likes of you?
   >>>Outsiders only visit this area with the aim of disrupting our sedate way of
   >>>life.
   >>>
   >>>I, as a Cumbrian don't want the Lake district turning into a pseudo lane of
   >>>the M6.
   >>>
   >>>I'm sure that there are plenty of watercourses near to Norfolk where you can
   >>>display your skills. So get stuffed.
  >>
  >>If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
  >>yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
  >>boaters.
  >>
  >>In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
  >>water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.
 >
 >I wish speed boaters would do the same in France. Fortunately there
 >aren't many of them, but they're a nuisance when they're around - and
 >I'm in a 14 tonne steel craft.

Locally the main problem is unlicensed teenagers *and younger*
misbehaving in their parents RIBs. The water police budget is so
reduced that they are unable to patrol the lakes with their boat and
there is no budget for overtime, so they are on duty Monday thru
Friday 9-5 only.
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 >> Stay informed about: Windermere: Increase the pressure 

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 19:33:22 +0000, Nick
<norfolk-n-hope.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

 >In the light of recent developments (the safety report on the lake
 >that undermined the bylaw, the Audit Commissions damning criticism of
 >the National Parks management etc), the Windermere Action Force are
 >trying to increase the pressure on the government and the National
 >Park Authority.
 >
 >With that in mind, there is now an easy and free way to fax your MP
 >with a letter of your wording just by following the link below:
 >
 >http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html
 >
 >Be sure to include your name and address otherwise your MP will not
 >count it as valid.
 >
 >It only takes as long as it takes you to type it and costs you
 >nothing. So no matter how frequently you use Windermere, please get
 >faxing and let the government know the strength of feeling out there...


Thanks I will. I'll tell him what a good idea the speed limit is.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Windermere: Increase the pressure 

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 08:59:37 -0000, "SeanD."
<stick_two_fingers_up.DeleteThis@spammers.com> wrote:

 >Nick @ Norfolk?
 >- why should we campaign for speedboats to cut up one of our beautiful Lakes
 >for the likes of you?
 >Outsiders only visit this area with the aim of disrupting our sedate way of
 >life.
 >
 >I, as a Cumbrian don't want the Lake district turning into a pseudo lane of
 >the M6.
 >
 >I'm sure that there are plenty of watercourses near to Norfolk where you can
 >display your skills. So get stuffed.
 >
 >Sean @ Cumbria.

Typical Cumbrian, always beating about the bush. Tell him what you
really think, Sean.

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 >> Stay informed about: Windermere: Increase the pressure 

SeanD. wrote:
 > "Nick" <norfolk-n-hope.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:c00q4l$11nb79$1@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de...
 >
  >>In the light of recent developments (the safety report on the lake
  >>that undermined the bylaw, the Audit Commissions damning criticism of
  >>the National Parks management etc), the Windermere Action Force are
  >>trying to increase the pressure on the government and the National
  >>Park Authority.
  >>
  >>With that in mind, there is now an easy and free way to fax your MP
  >>with a letter of your wording just by following the link below:
  >>
  >>http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html
  >>
  >>Be sure to include your name and address otherwise your MP will not
  >>count it as valid.
  >>
  >>It only takes as long as it takes you to type it and costs you
  >>nothing. So no matter how frequently you use Windermere, please get
  >>faxing and let the government know the strength of feeling out there...
 >
 >
 > Nick @ Norfolk?
 > I'm sure that there are plenty of watercourses near to Norfolk where you can
 > display your skills. So get stuffed.

I'm not from Norfolk you plonker. It's a joke email address - read it
quickly. If you still don't get it then let me know and I'll SPELL IT
OUT FOR YOU OK?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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martin wrote:

 > If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
 > yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
 > boaters.
 >
 > In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
 > water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.

Well that's the problem Martin, there are NO other public lakes in the
whole of the country that allow speeds over 10mph. Windermere was
promised to be safe haven for us when a 10mph limit was imposed on the
other lakes but as we have seen on numerous occasions, this government
can't be trusted. And as the for National Park Authority, who the hell
elected them to speak on our behalf? No one!!

Nick<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:45:35 +0000, Nick
<norfolk-n-hope.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

 >SeanD. wrote:
  >> "Nick" <norfolk-n-hope.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
  >> news:c00q4l$11nb79$1@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de...

  >> Nick @ Norfolk?
  >> I'm sure that there are plenty of watercourses near to Norfolk where you can
  >> display your skills. So get stuffed.
 >
 >I'm not from Norfolk you plonker. It's a joke email address - read it
 >quickly. If you still don't get it then let me know and I'll SPELL IT
 >OUT FOR YOU OK?

I thought the whole thing was a joke, but some took it seriously.
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:49:38 +0000, Nick
<norfolk-n-hope.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

 >martin wrote:
 >
  >> If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
  >> yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
  >> boaters.
  >>
  >> In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
  >> water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.
 >
 >Well that's the problem Martin, there are NO other public lakes in the
 >whole of the country that allow speeds over 10mph. Windermere was
 >promised to be safe haven for us when a 10mph limit was imposed on the
 >other lakes but as we have seen on numerous occasions, this government
 >can't be trusted. And as the for National Park Authority, who the hell
 >elected them to speak on our behalf? No one!!

I didn't know that. Aren't you allowed to water ski on gravel pits
anymore? I remember Princess Margaret used to water ski on the gravel
pit at Sonning.
The fair way is to partition the lakes with buoys so that there is a
place for everybody or have some lakes reserved for power boats and
the rest for non power boat water sports.
I have nothing against power boats except some seem to be only
interested in passing within a few feet of sailing boats. I guess the
irresponsible few ruin it for the rest.
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 10:29:12 +0100, martin <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

 >
 >In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
 >water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.

I think nobody too as a right not to be upset.

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In article <s9g920ls548ousv157q390k0od10r496h2.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, martin
<URL:mailto:me@privacy.net> wrote:

 > Locally the main problem is unlicensed teenagers *and younger*
 > misbehaving in their parents RIBs. The water police budget is so

In which case it's the parents fault. Maybe the ban should be on vessels
-capable- of speeds over the limit in order to remove the temptation.

Cheerio,

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In article <c02qbp$121kac$2@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de>, Nick
<URL:mailto:norfolk-n-hope@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
 > martin wrote:
 >
  > > If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
  > > yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
  > > boaters.

 > Well that's the problem Martin, there are NO other public lakes in the
 > whole of the country that allow speeds over 10mph. Windermere was

I've pointed out before that there's an immense area of saltwater around the
UK where, as long as you run a little offshore, you can speed all you like.

 > promised to be safe haven for us when a 10mph limit was imposed on the
 > other lakes but as we have seen on numerous occasions, this government
 > can't be trusted. And as the for National Park Authority, who the hell
 > elected them to speak on our behalf? No one!!

Whilst I agree this government cannot be trusted I don't think this is a
party issue.

Cheerio,

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In article <cbr920t0jsdeah5n4b95j7sgeevfm39opj.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, martin
<URL:mailto:me@privacy.net> wrote:

 > I didn't know that. Aren't you allowed to water ski on gravel pits
 > anymore? I remember Princess Margaret used to water ski on the gravel

Owners of wholly private waters can make their own rules.

Cheerio,

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