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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 1:36 am
Post subject: Re: Windermere: Increase the pressure [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 20:40:32 +0000, "Derek.Moody"
<derek.moody.RemoveThis@clara.net> wrote:
>In article <c02qbp$121kac$2@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de>, Nick
><URL:mailto:norfolk-n-hope@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> martin wrote:
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>> > If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
>> > yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
>> > boaters.
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>> Well that's the problem Martin, there are NO other public lakes in the
>> whole of the country that allow speeds over 10mph. Windermere was
>
>I've pointed out before that there's an immense area of saltwater around the
>UK where, as long as you run a little offshore, you can speed all you like.
>
>> promised to be safe haven for us when a 10mph limit was imposed on the
>> other lakes but as we have seen on numerous occasions, this government
>> can't be trusted. And as the for National Park Authority, who the hell
>> elected them to speak on our behalf? No one!!
>
>Whilst I agree this government cannot be trusted
I don't think any political party in power is to be trusted
> I don't think this is a
>party issue.
I agree.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Windermere: Increase the pressure [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <cbr920t0jsdeah5n4b95j7sgeevfm39opj RemoveThis @4ax.com>, martin
<me RemoveThis @privacy.net> writes
>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:49:38 +0000, Nick
><norfolk-n-hope RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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>>martin wrote:
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>>> If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
>>> yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
>>> boaters.
>>>
>>> In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
>>> water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.
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>>Well that's the problem Martin, there are NO other public lakes in the
>>whole of the country that allow speeds over 10mph. Windermere was
>>promised to be safe haven for us when a 10mph limit was imposed on the
>>other lakes but as we have seen on numerous occasions, this government
>>can't be trusted. And as the for National Park Authority, who the hell
>>elected them to speak on our behalf? No one!!
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>I didn't know that. Aren't you allowed to water ski on gravel pits
>anymore?
Not as of right. A few gravel pits and inland lakes in private ownership
permit water-skiing, but only on payment of a fee, joining a club, etc.
Almost all limit the size and type of craft used and none even begin to
approach the size or utility of Windermere.
Windermere was the last unrestricted stretch of inland water available
to the public in the whole of the country.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Windermere: Increase the pressure [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <ant0720321cbBxcK DeleteThis @half-baked-idea.co.uk>, Derek.Moody
<derek.moody DeleteThis @clara.net> writes
>In article <c02qbp$121kac$2@ID-222193.news.uni-berlin.de>, Nick
><URL:mailto:norfolk-n-hope@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> martin wrote:
>>
>> > If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
>> > yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
>> > boaters.
>
>> Well that's the problem Martin, there are NO other public lakes in the
>> whole of the country that allow speeds over 10mph. Windermere was
>
>I've pointed out before that there's an immense area of saltwater around the
>UK where, as long as you run a little offshore, you can speed all you like.
This has been done to death before.
The argument cuts both ways. There are plenty of other places for those
who don't like to see or hear powerboats to go. There is, however,
nowhere else left in the entire country which offers powerboaters, and
particularly waterskiers, the same sort of conditions over the same area
of water.
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Marshall Rice
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 9:05 pm
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It isn't just power boats that come too close to other boats.
I regularly fish on the sea and when I am at anchor I am often used as a
marker by yachts and they come way too close, in fact I have to yell at some
to keep away due to the length of anchor warp I have out even when I have a
lifting buoy attached.
I think it is high time a boat handling competency test is introduced before
you are allowed to use a boat/pwc of any type.
I know this will upset some, but just basic seamanship skills will reduce
accidents, better understanding of other water users and make the whole
water sport world safer
I will get off my soap box now
Dave
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"martin" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:49:38 +0000, Nick
> <norfolk-n-hope DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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> >martin wrote:
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> >> If Windermere is anything like the Dutch De Kaag lakes, half a dozen
> >> yobs in over powered boats ruin the pleasure of thousands of other
> >> boaters.
> >>
> >> In other parts of the Netherlands, areas are marked with buoys for
> >> water skiers, who stick to these areas and upset nobody.
> >
> I have nothing against power boats except some seem to be only
> interested in passing within a few feet of sailing boats. I guess the
> irresponsible few ruin it for the rest.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:36 am
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 19:33:22 +0000, Nick
<norfolk-n-hope.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
:)In the light of recent developments (the safety report on the lake
:)that undermined the bylaw, the Audit Commissions damning criticism of
:)the National Parks management etc), the Windermere Action Force are
:)trying to increase the pressure on the government and the National
:)Park Authority.
:)With that in mind, there is now an easy and free way to fax your MP
:)with a letter of your wording just by following the link below:
:)http://www.waf.uk.com/write.html
Just as easy to write a letter !
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Comm again, Mike. >> Stay informed about: Windermere: Increase the pressure |
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