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Since: Oct 15, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 8:13 pm
Post subject: Old deck problem
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I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
problem
I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved pitch
pine
boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in the
traditional way.
Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some time
?
or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?
Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
results like?
Cheers
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 11:00 pm
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:13:18 +0100, "Bob Long" <rer.long.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com>
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>I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
>problem
>I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved pitch
>pine
>boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
>I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in the
>traditional way.
>Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some time
>or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?
Before you replace with new wood:
Cover the deck with wet blankets for a few days. I straightened out a
warped deck last winter.
>Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
>results like?
There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 6:21 am
Post subject: Re: Old deck problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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P.C. Ford (cwservices2@qwest.net) writes:
> There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
> it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
> effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
> affected member.
some members are irreplaceable
the guy is Dave Carnell, a chemist.
look at the writeup on his website.
someone posted the address here recently.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 10:10 am
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On 24 May 2004 03:21:32 GMT, ag384 DeleteThis @FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R.
Watt) wrote:
>P.C. Ford (cwservices2@qwest.net) writes:
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>> There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
>> it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
>> effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
>> affected member.
>
>some members are irreplaceable
Could you give an example? In thirty years of doing this stuff for a
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 10:59 am
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I've heard that if you apply antifreeze to old timber it absorbs it like
water but does not give it up
so easily, thus stabilising the wood from further movement. and protecting
it from rot as a bonus!
cheers
Bob
"Bob Long" <rer.long DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:JY4sc.224$MU2.53@newsfe4-gui...
> I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
> problem
> I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved
pitch
> pine
> boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
> I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in
the
> traditional way.
> Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some
time
> ?
> or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?
>
> Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
> results like?
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 6:00 pm
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P.C. Ford (cwservices2@qwest.net) writes:
> On 24 May 2004 03:21:32 GMT, ag384.DeleteThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R.
> Watt) wrote:
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>>P.C. Ford (cwservices2@qwest.net) writes:
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>>> There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
>>> it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
>>> effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
>>> affected member.
>>
>>some members are irreplaceable
>
> Could you give an example? In thirty years of doing this stuff for a
> living, I have yet to find such a member.
which body part are you using to earn your living?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 8:12 pm
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 07:10:31 -0700, P.C. Ford <cwservices2.RemoveThis@qwest.net>
wrote:
>On 24 May 2004 03:21:32 GMT, ag384.RemoveThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R.
>Watt) wrote:
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>>P.C. Ford (cwservices2@qwest.net) writes:
>>
>>> There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
>>> it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
>>> effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
>>> affected member.
>>
>>some members are irreplaceable
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>Could you give an example? In thirty years of doing this stuff for a
>living, I have yet to find such a member.
Evidently, the funny bone.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 2:41 am
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even antifreeze treated wood will dry out again
I wonder if the deck boards could be removed, reworked and relaid without
the gap.
"Bob Long" <rer.long.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:JY4sc.224$MU2.53@newsfe4-gui...
> I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
> problem
> I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved
pitch
> pine
> boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
> I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in
the
> traditional way.
> Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some
time
> ?
> or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?
>
> Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
> results like?
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 5:28 pm
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"Scott Downey" (sdowney717@msn.com) writes:
> even antifreeze treated wood will dry out again
> I wonder if the deck boards could be removed, reworked and relaid without
> the gap.
when wood planks get wet and expand too much the fibres along the edges
are crushed. when it dries out permanent gaps open up. the wood cannot be
put back in its original shape to close the gaps. however if the wood only
dries out and gaps open up, then wetting the wood will close the gaps.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:24 pm
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Does anyone know Dave Carnell's website. The old one doesn't work, at
least not today June 17th
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://home.att.net/~DaveCarnell" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~DaveCarnell</a>
Thanks
ag384.RemoveThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R. Watt) wrote in message news:<c8rpns$263$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
> P.C. Ford (cwservices2@qwest.net) writes:
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> > There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
> > it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
> > effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
> > affected member.
>
> some members are irreplaceable
>
> the guy is Dave Carnell, a chemist.
> look at the writeup on his website.
> someone posted the address here recently.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Old deck problem |
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