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Since: Jan 08, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:09 am
Post subject: A question from a new paddler...
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:09 am
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 04:09:04 GMT, !Jones wrote:
> Hello all.
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> The wife & I are an experienced tandem bicycle team. My "stoker" has
> serious balance and coordination issues such that she would probably
> not be able to manage a paddle for long. (I'm over it.) We live on
> the Texas Gulf coast (Corpus Christi) with vast areas open to
> kayaking, thus we're looking into that area.
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> I have just begun shopping about and I see an interesting rig on eBay:
> HOBIE MIRAGE OUTFITTER TANDEM PEDALING KAYAK (Specifically, eBay item
> #7209984358) It's a new boat, so it's not a bid deal.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with this device? It would *not* be
> used for river running save the tamest of streams. My concerns are in
> the mechanics of the drive. I wonder how well the drive system will
> hold up to salt water. I'll e-mail this to the manufacturer also and
> see what they answer... meanwhile, I'd like to hear any feedback.
>
> Thanks in advance.
You might contact the Pelican over on the Watertribe website. He uses
a Mirage drive in the Everglade Challenge. OvO |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:07 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:45 pm
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I'v Heard the term here in Newfoundland Canada as well.
They are looking at a variation of a double canoe thingy and have
cycled at length together. They should be fine in a double.
I didn't sit that damned bar exam for nothing.
Alex >> Stay informed about: A question from a new paddler... |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:38 pm
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"Wilko" <look RemoveThis @in.my.sig> wrote in message
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> Two words: "Divorce boat"!
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LOL! The wife and I each have our own boat for that reason. However, we
paddle. Maybe we could get along in a peddle boat, though.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:35 pm
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Ahhh February 14 th is coming. ( Vanintines day .)
I will be in the post office with hundreds of racey Valentines cards
saying personal improper things to gentlemen. Channel # 5 in a spray
bottle and lipstick on a tissue being liberaly spread.
Business will flurish with or without doubles.
Devorce lawyer.
In truth I am not a lawyer. But I could not resist.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:50 pm
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Hi John.
This string became fun a little while ago.
I like doubles for a couple of reasons and I dislike them for others.
This couple is looking at a paddle in calm conditions: Perfect for a
big old double.
The 6' seas you tallk about would be out of the question for some of
the other options around.
I preffer singles but a double is a way to put challenged individuals
on the water,
Blind people can hear, smell and taste the spray from whales.
You can take a friend from a wheelchair to a double,
then the double out to see bergs and whales.
Devorce boats are good for all sorts of things.
Filming a superb paddler rock hop on an ice berg with a cameraman
clutching a $40,000 camera can be done from a double.
I have done this.
I think a double may be an idea for the original poster.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:25 pm
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"John Fereira" <jaf30.DeleteThis@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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> I used that phrase several years ago and got a somewhat scathing response
> via email indicating numerous advantages of a tandem kayak.
I blocked that thread from my memory until you brought it up. Please...let's
not relive the past 
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:28 pm
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KMAN said: "They call them "divorce boats" because spouse x wants to
paddle up the east shoreline while spouse y wants to paddle up the west
shoreline."
I think they call them 'divorce boats' because spouse X and spouse Y
both wanted to stay dry, but they dumped. And spouse X blames spouse Y
and spouse Y blames spouse X. And just like sqeezing the damn
toothpaste from the middle, over time the little grudge grows and grows
and GROWS until ITS JUST TOO DAMN HARD TO PADDLE WITH YOU, YOU STUPID
CONTROL FREAK WATCH OUT FOR THAT ROCK THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT TIME WITH
THE KIDS WHEN YOU LET THEM STAY UP LATE AND I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO
WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND HEY YOU DELIBERATELY LET THAT WAVE SOAK ME YOU
LOOK LIKE YOUR FREAKING MOTHER OR FATHER AND HEY!!! DON'T STEER US
THERE CAN'T YOU SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING?? I CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS
ANYMORE MR EXPERT PADDLER IT WAS YOUR FAULT WE DUMPED BACK THERE GET ME
OUT OF THE GODAMNED CANOE YOU NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU WHEN
WE GET TO SHORE I"M CALLING MY LAWYER I HATE YOU YOU STUPID IDIOT!!
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:19 am
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"riverman" <myronbuck.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> And just like sqeezing the damn
> toothpaste from the middle, over time the little grudge grows and grows
> and GROWS until ITS JUST TOO DAMN HARD TO PADDLE WITH YOU, YOU STUPID
> CONTROL FREAK WATCH OUT FOR THAT ROCK THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT TIME WITH
> THE KIDS WHEN YOU LET THEM STAY UP LATE AND I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO
> WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND HEY YOU DELIBERATELY LET THAT WAVE SOAK ME YOU
> LOOK LIKE YOUR FREAKING MOTHER OR FATHER AND HEY!!! DON'T STEER US
> THERE CAN'T YOU SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING?? I CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS
> ANYMORE MR EXPERT PADDLER IT WAS YOUR FAULT WE DUMPED BACK THERE GET ME
> OUT OF THE GODAMNED CANOE YOU NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU WHEN
> WE GET TO SHORE I"M CALLING MY LAWYER I HATE YOU YOU STUPID IDIOT!!
LOL! That hits a little too close to home I once tried paddling tandem
with my father on a 2-day trip. It was a *very* long, very *wet* two days.
I've also tried paddling tandem with a couple of other people and somehow it
never works out well. Well, except for one particular guy--we had fun though
he was a much stronger and better paddler than me. Hmm...I'm the common
denominator in the equation so I guess that doesn't speak well for me!
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:22 am
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"Wilko van den Bergh" <wilko RemoveThis @dse.nl> wrote in message
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> IMNSHO the main problem is that many couples who think that they have a
> good relationship, don't. Finding out on the river that you're not
> communicating but talking to each other, that cooperation is something
> else than a fight for domination, that it's better to have the most
> experienced boater set the course instead of the most dominant one...
> A lot can go wrong in a relationship, but tandem kayaking is a good way
> of finding out how well a couple really gets along and brining out some
> deeper lying problems.
Wilko, I think you make a very valid point here...
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:22 pm
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Wilko van den Bergh wrote:
> IMNSHO the main problem is that many couples who think that they have a
> good relationship, don't. Finding out on the river that you're not
> communicating but talking to each other, that cooperation is something
> else than a fight for domination, that it's better to have the most
> experienced boater set the course instead of the most dominant one...
> A lot can go wrong in a relationship, but tandem kayaking is a good way
> of finding out how well a couple really gets along and brining out some
> deeper lying problems.
Jesus, this is getting scary. Does anyone actually know of a married
couple that has gotten a divorce because of tandem paddling?
Or is "divorce boat" perhaps a metaphor?
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:57 pm
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"riverman" <myronbuck DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> KMAN said: "They call them "divorce boats" because spouse x wants to
> paddle up the east shoreline while spouse y wants to paddle up the west
>
> shoreline."
>
> I think they call them 'divorce boats' because spouse X and spouse Y
> both wanted to stay dry, but they dumped. And spouse X blames spouse Y
> and spouse Y blames spouse X. And just like sqeezing the damn
> toothpaste from the middle, over time the little grudge grows and grows
> and GROWS until ITS JUST TOO DAMN HARD TO PADDLE WITH YOU, YOU STUPID
> CONTROL FREAK WATCH OUT FOR THAT ROCK THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT TIME WITH
> THE KIDS WHEN YOU LET THEM STAY UP LATE AND I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO
> WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND HEY YOU DELIBERATELY LET THAT WAVE SOAK ME YOU
> LOOK LIKE YOUR FREAKING MOTHER OR FATHER AND HEY!!! DON'T STEER US
> THERE CAN'T YOU SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING?? I CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS
> ANYMORE MR EXPERT PADDLER IT WAS YOUR FAULT WE DUMPED BACK THERE GET ME
> OUT OF THE GODAMNED CANOE YOU NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU WHEN
> WE GET TO SHORE I"M CALLING MY LAWYER I HATE YOU YOU STUPID IDIOT!!
>
>
> --riverman
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:59 pm
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"rlightning" <lightmail.RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in message
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> "Wilko van den Bergh" <wilko.RemoveThis@dse.nl> wrote in message
> news:1136988374.132962.112110@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> IMNSHO the main problem is that many couples who think that they have a
>> good relationship, don't. Finding out on the river that you're not
>> communicating but talking to each other, that cooperation is something
>> else than a fight for domination, that it's better to have the most
>> experienced boater set the course instead of the most dominant one...
>> A lot can go wrong in a relationship, but tandem kayaking is a good way
>> of finding out how well a couple really gets along and brining out some
>> deeper lying problems.
>
> Wilko, I think you make a very valid point here...
>
> Rebecca Lightning
I think it's total horseshit. A couple could get along in a tandem kayak
because their relationship is already broken and they can't function as
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:37 pm
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Yes actually! One caught the other tandem paddling at a party
and.............oops you meant boats
<cramersec DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Wilko van den Bergh wrote:
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> > IMNSHO the main problem is that many couples who think that they have a
> > good relationship, don't. Finding out on the river that you're not
> > communicating but talking to each other, that cooperation is something
> > else than a fight for domination, that it's better to have the most
> > experienced boater set the course instead of the most dominant one...
> > A lot can go wrong in a relationship, but tandem kayaking is a good way
> > of finding out how well a couple really gets along and brining out some
> > deeper lying problems.
>
> Jesus, this is getting scary. Does anyone actually know of a married
> couple that has gotten a divorce because of tandem paddling?
>
> Or is "divorce boat" perhaps a metaphor?
>
> Steve
> >> Stay informed about: A question from a new paddler... |
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