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Reynaud

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:44 pm
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I am building my first boat its just a small experimental kayak. I,m
surprised at how accurate you have to be as one small error on one side
affects the other side and vice versa. I now see the real value of an jig or
mold or strong back in keeping everything aligned and square. This is a real
learning experience for me. I,ve no idea if the darn thing will even float.

Rey

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Mike B1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:25 am
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With enough foam, you can get anything to float. Just kidding.

I havn't started on my first boat yet. Have it narrowed down to a couple of
plans. I am still trying to convince the War Department (wife) that we can
do it.

Best of luck to you.

Mike

"Reynaud" <sjimk.TakeThisOut@mts.net> wrote in message
news:h9WOc.273$Ni.673@news1.mts.net...
 > I am building my first boat its just a small experimental kayak. I,m
 > surprised at how accurate you have to be as one small error on one side
 > affects the other side and vice versa. I now see the real value of an jig
or
 > mold or strong back in keeping everything aligned and square. This is a
real
 > learning experience for me. I,ve no idea if the darn thing will even
float.
 >
 > Rey
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Brian Whatcott

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:26 am
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:44:23 -0500, "Reynaud" <sjimk RemoveThis @mts.net> wrote:

 >I am building my first boat its just a small experimental kayak. I,m
 >surprised at how accurate you have to be as one small error on one side
 >affects the other side and vice versa. I now see the real value of an jig or
 >mold or strong back in keeping everything aligned and square. This is a real
 >learning experience for me. I,ve no idea if the darn thing will even float.
 >
 >Rey
 >

It is always better to learn on paper, than in the flesh - life is too
short already. When exploring new design, engineers look over the
shoulder at what people have done before, (if they are smart, anyway).
In your case, a PBK 10 which was an 11 foot kayak with three cut
frames and three optional bent frames carrying a canvas skin
might be a useful plan set. It is capable of being built by an
unaided 13 year old. Like I was.
Plans are still available for Blandford's design at ClarkCraft at
Tonawanda <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.clarkcraft.com" target="_blank">http://www.clarkcraft.com</a>

Now, you might well skip the canvas, possibly dump the wood too, in
favor of glass.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Matt Langenfeld2

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:19 pm
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Did you design the hull yourself?

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Reynaud wrote:
 > I am building my first boat its just a small experimental kayak. I,m
 > surprised at how accurate you have to be as one small error on one side
 > affects the other side and vice versa. I now see the real value of an jig or
 > mold or strong back in keeping everything aligned and square. This is a real
 > learning experience for me. I,ve no idea if the darn thing will even float.
 >
 > Rey
 >
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Reynaud

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:19 pm
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"Matt Langenfeld" <info.TakeThisOut@no-spam-jemwatercraft.com> wrote in message
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 > Did you design the hull yourself?
 >
 > --
 > Matt Langenfeld
 > JEM Watercraft
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://jemwatercraft.com</font" target="_blank">http://jemwatercraft.com</font</a>>
 >

Hi Matt I did design the hull it is an shallow V included angle of 150* the
rear end gave me no problems but the front was a difficult task as the boat
has no rocker.
I ,m fortunate in that my son is a lab tech and works for a coating
manufactuer so I get a lot of free samples of epoxy and fairing compounds .
They make epoxy and fairing material for an large company in Toronto Can.(
Noah,s)

Rey
 > Reynaud wrote:
  > > I am building my first boat its just a small experimental kayak. I,m
  > > surprised at how accurate you have to be as one small error on one side
  > > affects the other side and vice versa. I now see the real value of an
jig or
  > > mold or strong back in keeping everything aligned and square. This is a
real
  > > learning experience for me. I,ve no idea if the darn thing will even
float.
  > >
  > > Rey
  > >
  > >
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Matt Langenfeld2

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:31 am
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You lucky dog....free epoxy! Wink

Ensuring you have no twist can be tricky. If you have at least 2
frames/bulkheads, here's a trick I like to use in my plans:

Once you have things stitched together, assumming you're doing stitch
and glue, tape a string from bow to stern. Mark a spot dead-center on
each frame/bulkhead. The string and points on the frames/bulkheads
should all align.

Hope that helps!

Matt



Reynaud wrote:
  > Hi Matt I did design the hull it is an shallow V included angle of
150* the
 > rear end gave me no problems but the front was a difficult task as the boat
 > has no rocker.
 > I ,m fortunate in that my son is a lab tech and works for a coating
 > manufactuer so I get a lot of free samples of epoxy and fairing compounds .
 > They make epoxy and fairing material for an large company in Toronto Can.(
 > Noah,s)
 >
 > Rey<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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