Even the geek who has everything...

On Aug 19, 8:48 am, "Eisboch" <r....RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
> Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " <nospample....RemoveThis@here.com> wrote in messagenews:S72dnXHEG803IDfVnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
>
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> > Eisboch wrote:
> >> "hk" <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> >>news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>
> >>>http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>
> >>> Only $1589.
>
> >> This geek much prefers this ....
>
> >> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>
> >>http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>
> >> Eisboch
>
> > I wondered why this was not done earlier.
>
> > Do the "experts" say this sounds the same as the 1965 version?
>
> I don't know.  Sounds the same to me, but I am no expert.
> It has not been redesigned.  Just re-released as a product.  Same cabinet
> design, same Jensen "special" speakers, same tube pre-amps, reverb drivers
> and 6L6 output stage.
>
> I have another, solid state Fender "Stage 1000" that has digital signal
> processing, etc.   Sounds ok, but not like the tube twin.
> There isn't a chip, processor or digital circuit in it.
>
> Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I sat and played a few tube amps a while back, I liked the Valve King
best.. It was an older one. The kid at the store kept trying to get me
to buy the new fender, but I didn't like the bottom end as much..

Hey Dick, let me know if you are getting my posts, if you are using
Genes server to read and post you won't...
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On Aug 19, 8:19 am, "Eisboch" <r... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> "hk" <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>
> news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>
> >http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>
> > Only $1589.
>
> This geek much prefers this ....
>
> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>
> http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>
> Eisboch

Absolutely!!!
She's a beaut! Tried to buy one just recently at my local cool guitar
store, dude wouldn't budge off of the price, and it was high......real
high!
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On Aug 19, 9:45 am, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
<nospample... DeleteThis @here.com> wrote:
> LoogyPic... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > On Aug 19, 8:19 am, "Eisboch" <r... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> "hk" <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>
> >>news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> >>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
> >>>http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
> >>> Only $1589.
> >> This geek much prefers this ....
>
> >> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>
> >>http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>
> >> Eisboch
>
> > Absolutely!!!
> > She's a beaut! Tried to buy one just recently at my local cool guitar
> > store, dude wouldn't budge off of the price, and it was high......real
> > high!
>
> It is THE hot amp, but Guitar Center does have it priced at $950.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That's not too bad. I'll look into it.
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"hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>
> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>
>
> Only $1589.
>


This geek much prefers this ....

(new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)

http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg

Eisboch
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On Aug 19, 11:03 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
<em... DeleteThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:41:57 -0400, sa... DeleteThis @dog.com wrote:
> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:19:00 -0400, "Eisboch" <r... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >><sa... DeleteThis @dog.com> wrote in message
> >>news:82kla492gl48vbctjggtgvs0gjk6l9d3id@4ax.com...
>
> >>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:45:33 -0400, "Eisboch" <r... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Does it have the original tube rectifier, or the later replacement?
>
> >>>>Hold on .... I'll check ....
>
> >>>>Must be a solid state (brick) rectifier.   It has 10 tubes total ..... (4)
> >>>>6L6's,  (2) 12AT7's,  (4) 12AX7's.
>
> >>>>Eisboch
>
> >>> Purists would find that horrifying!
>
> >>> I have an old Super Reverb black face from around that era. Less power
> >>> than a twin, and four 10" speakers. Personally, I think it was the
> >>> best sounding guitar amp Fender ever produced. Something about the
> >>> acoustic coupling of the 4-10" speakers just works really well for
> >>> guitar. Amp-wise, it's basically just a Tremolux with reverb added.
> >>> Like the other amps of that era, including the twin, it lacks channel
> >>> switching, which makes it less than ideal for playing out. At 35
> >>> watts, it really isn't loud enough anyway, unless mic'ed through a PA..
>
> >>Last night I was pleasantly surprised.   Over the past year I've redeveloped
> >>an interest in guitars and have collected a few, including amps.   I enjoy
> >>the different sound and play "feel" of the guitar types and amp
> >>combinations.
>
> >>Two of the guitars are Taylor acoustic/electrics, a 6 string and a 12
> >>string.   When played through my old Marshall Valvestat, the solid sate
> >>Fender or the Vox amps, these guitars sounded horrible.   So, I visited my
> >>local music shop and bought a Kustom acoustic guitar amp and the Taylors
> >>sound nice through it.
>
> >>Last night I tried the Taylors plugged into the "Normal" channel of the
> >>Fender Twin.   Absolutely beautiful sound ... nice, rich, full and clean.  I
> >>was really surprised.
>
> >>I haven't tried the EC "Blackie" yet.  I suspect it will sound good.
>
> >Strat+Twin is one of the classic combinations.
>
> Strat and anything is a classic combination.  :>)
>
> I have an orignial Bandmaster - I wish I played more than I do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Bring it over here, I will play it for a while for you, and if you
have an old tube amp, bring it too... Bad enough I can't play, but to
put it though my peavey wouldn't do it justice, even at 210
watts...
 >> Stay informed about: Even the geek who has everything... 

Eisboch wrote:
> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>>
>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>>
>>
>> Only $1589.
>>
>
>
> This geek much prefers this ....
>
> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>
> http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>
> Eisboch
>
>

I wondered why this was not done earlier.

Do the "experts" say this sounds the same as the 1965 version?
 >> Stay informed about: Even the geek who has everything... 

"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " <nospamplease RemoveThis @here.com> wrote in message
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> Eisboch wrote:
>> "hk" <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>>>
>>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>>>
>>>
>>> Only $1589.
>>>
>>
>>
>> This geek much prefers this ....
>>
>> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>>
>> http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>>
>> Eisboch
>
> I wondered why this was not done earlier.
>
> Do the "experts" say this sounds the same as the 1965 version?
>

I don't know. Sounds the same to me, but I am no expert.
It has not been redesigned. Just re-released as a product. Same cabinet
design, same Jensen "special" speakers, same tube pre-amps, reverb drivers
and 6L6 output stage.

I have another, solid state Fender "Stage 1000" that has digital signal
processing, etc. Sounds ok, but not like the tube twin.
There isn't a chip, processor or digital circuit in it.

Eisboch
 >> Stay informed about: Even the geek who has everything... 

On Aug 19, 11:53 am, sa... RemoveThis @dog.com wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT),
>
>
>
>
>
> justwaitafrekinmin... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> >On Aug 19, 11:03 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
> ><em... RemoveThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:41:57 -0400, sa... RemoveThis @dog.com wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:19:00 -0400, "Eisboch" <r... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >> >><sa... RemoveThis @dog.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:82kla492gl48vbctjggtgvs0gjk6l9d3id@4ax.com...
>
> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:45:33 -0400, "Eisboch" <r... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>>>> Does it have the original tube rectifier, or the later replacement?
>
> >> >>>>Hold on .... I'll check ....
>
> >> >>>>Must be a solid state (brick) rectifier.   It has 10 tubes total .... (4)
> >> >>>>6L6's,  (2) 12AT7's,  (4) 12AX7's.
>
> >> >>>>Eisboch
>
> >> >>> Purists would find that horrifying!
>
> >> >>> I have an old Super Reverb black face from around that era. Less power
> >> >>> than a twin, and four 10" speakers. Personally, I think it was the
> >> >>> best sounding guitar amp Fender ever produced. Something about the
> >> >>> acoustic coupling of the 4-10" speakers just works really well for
> >> >>> guitar. Amp-wise, it's basically just a Tremolux with reverb added..
> >> >>> Like the other amps of that era, including the twin, it lacks channel
> >> >>> switching, which makes it less than ideal for playing out. At 35
> >> >>> watts, it really isn't loud enough anyway, unless mic'ed through a PA.
>
> >> >>Last night I was pleasantly surprised.   Over the past year I've redeveloped
> >> >>an interest in guitars and have collected a few, including amps.   I enjoy
> >> >>the different sound and play "feel" of the guitar types and amp
> >> >>combinations.
>
> >> >>Two of the guitars are Taylor acoustic/electrics, a 6 string and a 12
> >> >>string.   When played through my old Marshall Valvestat, the solid sate
> >> >>Fender or the Vox amps, these guitars sounded horrible.   So, I visited my
> >> >>local music shop and bought a Kustom acoustic guitar amp and the Taylors
> >> >>sound nice through it.
>
> >> >>Last night I tried the Taylors plugged into the "Normal" channel of the
> >> >>Fender Twin.   Absolutely beautiful sound ... nice, rich, full and clean.  I
> >> >>was really surprised.
>
> >> >>I haven't tried the EC "Blackie" yet.  I suspect it will sound good.
>
> >> >Strat+Twin is one of the classic combinations.
>
> >> Strat and anything is a classic combination.  :>)
>
> >> I have an orignial Bandmaster - I wish I played more than I do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Bring it over here, I will play it for a while for you, and if you
> >have an old tube amp, bring it too... Bad enough I can't play, but to
> >put it though my peavey wouldn't do it justice, even at 210
> >watts...
>
> Um... Bandmaster is an amp, not a guitar, stairflopper.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yup, realized I snipped the wrong post,, you caught me, you must be
proud.. Man, get a life..
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Eisboch wrote:
> "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
> Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " <nospamplease.RemoveThis@here.com> wrote in message
> news:S72dnXHEG803IDfVnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> "hk" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Only $1589.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This geek much prefers this ....
>>>
>>> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>>>
>>> http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>> I wondered why this was not done earlier.
>>
>> Do the "experts" say this sounds the same as the 1965 version?
>>
>
> I don't know. Sounds the same to me, but I am no expert.
> It has not been redesigned. Just re-released as a product. Same cabinet
> design, same Jensen "special" speakers, same tube pre-amps, reverb drivers
> and 6L6 output stage.
>
> I have another, solid state Fender "Stage 1000" that has digital signal
> processing, etc. Sounds ok, but not like the tube twin.
> There isn't a chip, processor or digital circuit in it.
>
> Eisboch
>
>
>

My son picked out a Fender 100 watt Frontman Amp. for his first amp. As
soon as he got it home, he wanted to buy a used Tube Amp. I am glad he
didn't save up the money, because now his Big Amp is sitting in my
wife's "hobby room". We told him we would bring up all of his belonging
to his new school, but he told us he was limited on space. His tiny 25
amp "practice amp" is now more than enough. I think I am going to have
to place some items on Ebay.
 >> Stay informed about: Even the geek who has everything... 

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:48:42 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
>Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " <nospamplease RemoveThis @here.com> wrote in message
>news:S72dnXHEG803IDfVnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> "hk" <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Only $1589.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This geek much prefers this ....
>>>
>>> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>>>
>>> http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>
>> I wondered why this was not done earlier.
>>
>> Do the "experts" say this sounds the same as the 1965 version?
>>
>
>I don't know. Sounds the same to me, but I am no expert.
>It has not been redesigned. Just re-released as a product. Same cabinet
>design, same Jensen "special" speakers, same tube pre-amps, reverb drivers
>and 6L6 output stage.
>
>I have another, solid state Fender "Stage 1000" that has digital signal
>processing, etc. Sounds ok, but not like the tube twin.
>There isn't a chip, processor or digital circuit in it.
>
>Eisboch
>
>

Does it have the original tube rectifier, or the later replacement?
 >> Stay informed about: Even the geek who has everything... 

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Hey Dick, let me know if you are getting my posts, if you are using
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I alternate back and forth between Gene's server and my Giganews server,
mainly because it's interesting to see how his filter algorithms work.

For example .... this whole thread .... originally started by Harry ....
does not show up on Gene's at all, at least not so far.
So you aren't there, but none of the respondents, including Harry's original
post "Even the geek who has everything" is not there at the time of this
post.

Yet, all of our OT discussion about the Norwegian Utopia is there.

I've noticed that most of the time posts on Gene's server show up much later
after they appear on Giganews, although occasionally they show up on Gene's
faster.

Eisboch
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LoogyPicker RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 19, 8:19 am, "Eisboch" <r... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>> "hk" <payer33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>>> Only $1589.
>> This geek much prefers this ....
>>
>> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>>
>> http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>>
>> Eisboch
>
> Absolutely!!!
> She's a beaut! Tried to buy one just recently at my local cool guitar
> store, dude wouldn't budge off of the price, and it was high......real
> high!

It is THE hot amp, but Guitar Center does have it priced at $950.
 >> Stay informed about: Even the geek who has everything... 

<salty RemoveThis @dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:48:42 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
>>Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " <nospamplease RemoveThis @here.com> wrote in message
>>news:S72dnXHEG803IDfVnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>> "hk" <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:-7CdnWKCxfZeKzfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> ...is unlikely to have this toy:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Only $1589.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This geek much prefers this ....
>>>>
>>>> (new release of classic, 1965 twin .... 100% vacuum tube powered)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eisboch.com/65twin.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Eisboch
>>>
>>> I wondered why this was not done earlier.
>>>
>>> Do the "experts" say this sounds the same as the 1965 version?
>>>
>>
>>I don't know. Sounds the same to me, but I am no expert.
>>It has not been redesigned. Just re-released as a product. Same cabinet
>>design, same Jensen "special" speakers, same tube pre-amps, reverb drivers
>>and 6L6 output stage.
>>
>>I have another, solid state Fender "Stage 1000" that has digital signal
>>processing, etc. Sounds ok, but not like the tube twin.
>>There isn't a chip, processor or digital circuit in it.
>>
>>Eisboch
>>
>>
>
> Does it have the original tube rectifier, or the later replacement?
>

Hold on .... I'll check ....

Must be a solid state (brick) rectifier. It has 10 tubes total .... (4)
6L6's, (2) 12AT7's, (4) 12AX7's.

Eisboch
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