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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:51:51 -0400, hk <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote:

>Ahh...the secret of my success with women..

$100?
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:51:51 -0400, hk <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>> Ahh...the secret of my success with women..
>
> $100?

Ahh...you live in a low cost of living area. :>)
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On Aug 20, 2:03 am, "Eisboch" <noth... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Calif Bill" <bmckees... DeleteThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > And you forgot about the old Silicon Rectifiers.
>
> You probably mean the old Selenium Rectifiers. The ones that stunk like
> rotten eggs when they went bad.
>
> Eisboch

The ones that never were sealed good and even lengthy exposure to
humidity would eat them up?

A lot of battery chargers are still made with them today. They're not
the most efficient and are costly. When they'd go bad, my dad would
replace them with truck diodes. that would definitely hold till the
transformer went out...
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"Calif Bill" <bmckeespam.TakeThisOut@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
> And you forgot about the old Silicon Rectifiers.
>

You probably mean the old Selenium Rectifiers. The ones that stunk like
rotten eggs when they went bad.

Eisboch
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschnautz.TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 19, 7:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em....TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org>
>wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:04:58 -0400, "D.Duck" <D....TakeThisOut@ld.duck> wrote:
>>
>> >"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em....TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> >news:h6fma493diadta86htgb2ldviiepoo9j0r@4ax.com...
>> >> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:18:19 -0400, "D.Duck" <D....TakeThisOut@ld.duck> wrote:
>>
>> >>>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em....TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> >>>news:sidma4tlreu198rn1fdokreja318e93si3@4ax.com...
>> >>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:03:07 -0400, "D.Duck" <D....TakeThisOut@ld.duck> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em....TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:uacma4tpn5akm0f31c2b5hu3o2qbpq7m29@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:06:12 -0400, "D.Duck" <D....TakeThisOut@ld.duck> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em....TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>news:kc8ma4lmppfvlcgh1tuladh2lk8c2ghfj8@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:27:22 -0400, Wayne.B
>> >>>>>>>> <waynebatrecdotbo....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:21:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
>> >>>>>>>>><em....TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>However, I can tell the difference between, say, my Mac 50s and a
>> >>>>>>>>>>similar power level solid state monoblock.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>I think it's safe to say that the old tube amps had more "warmth",
>> >>>>>>>>>just the thing for a cold winter's night in New England.
>>
>> >>>>>>>> Plus, the extra added advantage of glowing in the dark.
>>
>> >>>>>>>> Nothing like a dim room and the soft glow of vacuum tubes. :>)
>>
>> >>>>>>>> I should take a picture of my Dad's Collins S-line some evening
>> >>>>>>>> after
>> >>>>>>>> dark.
>>
>> >>>>>>>> Now that's a sight. :>)
>>
>> >>>>>>>Don't the 30S-1 and 30L-1 use ceramic output tubes? Now the glass
>> >>>>>>>tubes
>> >>>>>>>in
>> >>>>>>>the rx and tx would glow for sure.
>>
>> >>>>>> Only the 30S-1 - cathode drive, ceramic triodes. The 30L-1 uses four
>> >>>>>> 811A glass triodes cathode drive in parallel.
>>
>> >>>>>Got it, tnx.....memory fart.
>>
>> >>>> The only reason I know that is because my Dad had both of them - the
>> >>>> S-1 I sold a few years ago because it is much too big for my purposes.
>>
>> >>>> Besides, the L-1 looks better on the desk. :>)
>>
>> >>>I used to have a KW-1. There was a real brute. While I was in the USMC on
>> >>>Okinawa in '59 I used to transmit hour after hour of RTTY messages back
>> >>>home
>> >>>at full legal power plus a little for good measure.
>>
>> >> I used to work MARS all the time when I was in SEA - loved the ability
>> >> to REALLY crank it up. :>)
>>
>> >> QRP? HA!!!
>>
>> >> Anyhoo...
>>
>> >> My Dad was a rather conservative soul, but when it came to radios, he
>> >> and his life long friend Fred used to "experiment" with antennas and
>> >> such.
>>
>> >> Probably the classic Ed and Fred device was a 75 meter base loaded
>> >> antenna on his '54 Ford Crown Victoria powered by a homebrew
>> >> California kilowatt amp excited by his KWM-2. They jury rigged a
>> >> second generator and battery system to power the whole thing.
>>
>> >> Occasionally, when the weather was right, you could produce a corona
>> >> ball off the tip of the antenna which was a sight in and of it'self
>> >> never mind the base loaded antenna. To keep it upright, they used
>> >> huge electrical service insulators and manilla rope tied off to the
>> >> door posts. :>)
>>
>> >> Then there...well, we'll tell that one another time. :>)
>>
>> >I've seen some really wild mobile contraptions in my day. Your Dad's sounds
>> >like a real prize.
>>
>> Heh - Fred had a '58 Chevy wagon and his wife used to complain about
>> all the radio gear he had in the back of it. :>)
>>
>> I've done a few things in my day too - like shut feeding a bridge on
>> 160 and actually making a contact with it. :>)
>
>Not wishing to speak too soon, but I'm really surprised Larry hasn't
>barged in here.....

I think Larry remembered something and decided to take a powder for a
while.

And it was shunt feeding a bridge - I need a new keyboard. :>)
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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>
> I think Larry remembered something and decided to take a powder for a
> while.
>


I seriously believe he didn't know. He shot his mouth off, as usual,
speaking in general with another bizzare theory.

I don't think he meant it personally.


Eisboch
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:31:08 -0700, "Calif Bill"
<bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>
>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.RemoveThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>news:j13ma45qn3utjrj1jt0853t6kg7c8af326@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:42:06 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere.RemoveThis@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><salty.RemoveThis@dog.com> wrote in message
>>>news:0vula4hktik9a2a34p1r4rj269gpp77efv@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:50:49 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere.RemoveThis@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><salty.RemoveThis@dog.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:8vtla4plfhaak7i04po0j6tculgmppjguu@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, and solid state pre amps and power amps are cleaner than tube
>>>>>> amps, as well. Clean and accurate reproduction is not necessarily the
>>>>>> objective with tube amplifiers for musical instrument amplification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How the power is delivered to tubes can measurably affect things such
>>>>>> as rise time and decay. I'm not promising that you can actually hear
>>>>>> the difference, but purists will swear they can even if it is a
>>>>>> physiological impossibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you think about it though, the "power" is really being delivered by
>>>>>one
>>>>>or more big filter capacitors. I never asked one if it cared how the
>>>>>power
>>>>>got there. At that point, DC is DC.
>>>>>
>>>>>Eisboch
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You would think so, wouldn't you! Bear in mind that a vacuum tube is a
>>>> mechanical structure and not all of the power is part of the signal
>>>> path. You have to account for uneven heat, vibration and other
>>>> anomalies that all go into what come out. The vagaries of a wimpy,
>>>> tube rectified power supply, with hand rolled paper caps should not be
>>>> underestimated.
>>>>
>>>> Purists will also insist that point to point wiring sounds different
>>>> than circuit board construction. They may be right about that in some
>>>> cases. Sounds crazy, though...
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'll buy into the point to point wiring. An important critera used in
>>>high
>>>quality tube amps was to design the chassis so the signal wiring was as
>>>far
>>>away as possible from the power wiring. And, if you noted any funny
>>>noises
>>>or distortion, you could always re-route the wires.
>>>
>>>As for the power supply, I am still not convinced a tube rectifier is
>>>going
>>>to sound (or display on an O'scope) any different than solid state, if
>>>measured at the filter stage or any B+ test point. The audio amplifiers
>>>certainly are different between solid state and tubes and that is readily
>>>noticeable, even by people with tin ears.
>>>But 300 volts DC?
>>
>> Well, good points every one.
>>
>> However, I can tell the difference between, say, my Mac 50s and a
>> similar power level solid state monoblock.
>>
>> And I know others who can.
>>
>> So there must be something to it.
>>
>> Maybe it's all in our heads.
>>
>> Mine's certainly empty enough. :>)
>
>
>Solid state did great things in the 1940's. Magnetic Amps controlled the
>16" guns on the battleships. But Russia used microtubes / micro-valves for
>the English, in their ICBMs and other rockets.
>

In a nuclear attack, the Russian vacuum tube guidance systems have a
clear advantage, as they would still work.
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"Eisboch" <nothere.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Calif Bill" <bmckeespam.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> And you forgot about the old Silicon Rectifiers.
>>
>
> You probably mean the old Selenium Rectifiers. The ones that stunk like
> rotten eggs when they went bad.
>
> Eisboch
>
Rectumfryers is what they were commonly known as.
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"Eisboch" <nothere.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.RemoveThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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>>
>> I think Larry remembered something and decided to take a powder for a
>> while.
>>
>
>
> I seriously believe he didn't know. He shot his mouth off, as usual,
> speaking in general with another bizzare theory.
>
> I don't think he meant it personally.
>
>
> Eisboch

That's what I was thinking.
We used to hear that same type argument when the local police & fire dept
started hiring quotas of women, minorities etc.
There was always talk of standards being lowered..blah blah.
The bottom line with Tom's boy...he graduated at the top of his class and a
supervisor didn't know there was anything different until he noticed a
slight limp.
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Don White wrote:
> "Eisboch" <nothere.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> news:913na4986puh9mqf3qpliv3c188pmiqgrb@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I think Larry remembered something and decided to take a powder for a
>>> while.
>>>
>>
>> I seriously believe he didn't know. He shot his mouth off, as usual,
>> speaking in general with another bizzare theory.
>>
>> I don't think he meant it personally.
>>
>>
>> Eisboch
>
> That's what I was thinking.
> We used to hear that same type argument when the local police & fire dept
> started hiring quotas of women, minorities etc.
> There was always talk of standards being lowered..blah blah.
> The bottom line with Tom's boy...he graduated at the top of his class and a
> supervisor didn't know there was anything different until he noticed a
> slight limp.
>
>


I've had my arguments with Larry over the years, and there have been
times that I've been too sharp with my criticism of him. But as I've
mellowed, I've decided Larry really is a good soul, a very decent
person, and, like me, an aging lecher. The fact that he believes in so
many conspiracy theories troubles me very little these days, considering
how many people still believe in GWB. :>)
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:44:49 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.RemoveThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote:

>I have perfect pitch and for me, it's a curse.

In music, perfect pitch is when the banjo lands dead center in the
Dumpster without touching the sides.

Casady
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:16:53 GMT, richardcasady DeleteThis @earthlink.net (Richard
Casady) wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:44:49 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
><email DeleteThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>
>>I have perfect pitch and for me, it's a curse.
>
>In music, perfect pitch is when the banjo lands dead center in the
>Dumpster without touching the sides.
>
Only if it lands on the bagpipes.

--Vic
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:00:26 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere DeleteThis @nowhere.com>
wrote:

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>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email DeleteThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> I think Larry remembered something and decided to take a powder for a
>> while.
>
>I seriously believe he didn't know. He shot his mouth off, as usual,
>speaking in general with another bizzare theory.
>
>I don't think he meant it personally.

Probably, but a while back, I asked him if he knew somebody in the
middle of a thread and he disappeared for two months. Never did get
an answer.

That's what I was relating to - something that happened on the ham
bands a long time ago.
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