Here's an interesting take on climate change...

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:43:19 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Ok. It's an issue of semantics.
>My problem with the original statement was the magical transformation of
>short wavelengths into long wavelengths as implied.
>What's really going on is the shorter wavelengths are transmitted "in",
>heat is generated which produces the longer, infrared wavelengths that are
>not as easily transmitted out.
>
>The short wavelengths are not directly being converted to long wavelengths.

The other important point made in the Wikipedia article is that "green
house effect" in the atmosphere is not really the same thing that
causes warming in a greenhouse. Warming in a greenhouse is primarily
caused by lack of convection cooling, similar to what happens inside a
parked car with the windows closed.

I recently read something else related to GW which stated that water
vapor is a much greater factor than carbon dioxide with atmospheric
heat retention. To me that is very persuasive at an intuitive level
since we have all seen examples of very dry air cooling rapidly at
night, much less so with humid air.
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:36:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
<"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Eisboch wrote:
>> <LoogyPicker.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:c66df87d-c2ee-4ab8-a126-90db95908133@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> "The solar energy is passing through the glass and is heating the
>> interior. Whats really happening is the short wave infrared waves are
>> going in and are turning into long wave infrared waves, which cannot
>> escape. So the just reflect around and get absorbed by their
>> supproundings."
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>> Out of technical curiosity, where did you read the above statement?
>>
>> (Always open to learning new things that defy the laws of physics)
>>
>> Eisboch
>>
>>
>I didn't post this, but here is Wikipedia's explanation of "near
>infrared" coming into the atmosphere and "infrared" waves being
>reflected back to space.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect

If you read the last section, it says that's not how a real greenhouse
works. They work by preventing convection.

Steve
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Steve wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:36:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
> <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> <LoogyPicker.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c66df87d-c2ee-4ab8-a126-90db95908133@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "The solar energy is passing through the glass and is heating the
>>> interior. Whats really happening is the short wave infrared waves are
>>> going in and are turning into long wave infrared waves, which cannot
>>> escape. So the just reflect around and get absorbed by their
>>> supproundings."
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Out of technical curiosity, where did you read the above statement?
>>>
>>> (Always open to learning new things that defy the laws of physics)
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>>
>>>
>> I didn't post this, but here is Wikipedia's explanation of "near
>> infrared" coming into the atmosphere and "infrared" waves being
>> reflected back to space.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
>
> If you read the last section, it says that's not how a real greenhouse
> works. They work by preventing convection.
>
> Steve

I missed the part where the OP was discussing an actual Greenhouse. I
thought he was discussing GW , commonly called the "Greenhouse Effect".
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