reinforcing fiberglass with different kinds of mesh

That's what woven rovin is for! Why re-invent the wheel.

<moreairguns.RemoveThis@icqmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi!
> Can you use stainless steel wire mesh or nylon mesh to reinforce
> fiberglass?
> Has anyone ever tried doing so?
>
> I was thinking perhaps after pouring the resin, I lay the glass fibers
> then the wire/nylon mesh, then repeat....
>
> What do you think?
>
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Oh okay thanks for your inputs.

"But the "pouring in resin" part makes me wonder what the heck you are
thinking??? "
sorry I didn't literally mean "pouring the resin" I just meant
applying it (with a hand brush or squeegee)

polyester resin doesn't bond well to glass sheets either, but it does
to glass fibers.
perhaps the resin would also adhere to thin nylon mesh or a rough
surfaced wire mesh would.
try applying resin to a nylon or wire mesh and I think it would still
be difficult to separate the two.

carbon fiber and kevlar is very expensive so I'm just thinking of the
possible alternatives.

it's just that metal is used to reinforce cement for structures and
rubber in tires.

just thinking out of the box.
it may sound crazy to some people but it's still worth a try.

Has anyone here ever tried doing that?






On Oct 17, 8:27 pm, brucedpa....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:23:16 -0700, moreairg....RemoveThis@icqmail.com wrote:
> >Hi!
> >Can you use stainless steel wire mesh or nylon mesh to reinforce
> >fiberglass?
> >Has anyone ever tried doing so?
>
> >I was thinking perhaps after pouring the resin, I lay the glass fibers
> >then the wire/nylon mesh, then repeat....
>
> >What do you think?
>
> First of all glass roving is going to be stronger then nylon mesh so
> using nylon is going to result in a weaker then normal laminate.
>
> Second, epoxy resin is not going to bond extremely well to stainless
> mesh so regardless of the strength of the stainless it may well not
> contribute to the overall strength of the laminate.
>
> Third, by using a combination of glass, carbon fiber and kevlar it is
> possible to build laminates that are literally bullet proof.
>
> Why bother with nylon or stainless?
>
> Bruce in Bangkok
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moreairguns RemoveThis @icqmail.com wrote:

> Oh okay thanks for your inputs.
>
> "But the "pouring in resin" part makes me wonder what the heck you are
> thinking??? "
> sorry I didn't literally mean "pouring the resin" I just meant
> applying it (with a hand brush or squeegee)
>
> polyester resin doesn't bond well to glass sheets either, but it does
> to glass fibers.
> perhaps the resin would also adhere to thin nylon mesh or a rough
> surfaced wire mesh would.
> try applying resin to a nylon or wire mesh and I think it would still
> be difficult to separate the two.
>
> carbon fiber and kevlar is very expensive so I'm just thinking of the
> possible alternatives.
>
> it's just that metal is used to reinforce cement for structures and
> rubber in tires.
>
> just thinking out of the box.
> it may sound crazy to some people but it's still worth a try.
>
> Has anyone here ever tried doing that?
>
>
>
>


Ok. Now get thy self back in the box and you'll have a lot better time.

Glass and epoxy.

Just like the book says.
 >> Stay informed about: reinforcing fiberglass with different kinds of mesh 

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:23:16 -0700, moreairguns.RemoveThis@icqmail.com wrote:

>Hi!
>Can you use stainless steel wire mesh or nylon mesh to reinforce
>fiberglass?
>Has anyone ever tried doing so?
>
>I was thinking perhaps after pouring the resin, I lay the glass fibers
>then the wire/nylon mesh, then repeat....
>
>What do you think?

I remember a fellow telling me you could cast nylon fishing line in a
polyester model, and no matter how jumbled, you could pull it out
to leave a long slim hole.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK
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<moreairguns RemoveThis @icqmail.com> wrote in message
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> Oh okay thanks for your inputs.
>
> "But the "pouring in resin" part makes me wonder what the heck you are
> thinking??? "
> sorry I didn't literally mean "pouring the resin" I just meant
> applying it (with a hand brush or squeegee)
>
> polyester resin doesn't bond well to glass sheets either, but it does
> to glass fibers.
> perhaps the resin would also adhere to thin nylon mesh or a rough
> surfaced wire mesh would.
> try applying resin to a nylon or wire mesh and I think it would still
> be difficult to separate the two.
>
> carbon fiber and kevlar is very expensive so I'm just thinking of the
> possible alternatives.
>
> it's just that metal is used to reinforce cement for structures and
> rubber in tires.
>
> just thinking out of the box.
> it may sound crazy to some people but it's still worth a try.
>
Generally speaking, when no one does something there is a good reason why.
Glass is simply better than wire or nylon.

I have used polyester cloth, but that is weaker than glass, but easier.
 >> Stay informed about: reinforcing fiberglass with different kinds of mesh 

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:23:16 -0700, moreairguns.TakeThisOut@icqmail.com wrote:

>Hi!
>Can you use stainless steel wire mesh or nylon mesh to reinforce
>fiberglass?
>Has anyone ever tried doing so?
>
>I was thinking perhaps after pouring the resin, I lay the glass fibers
>then the wire/nylon mesh, then repeat....
>
>What do you think?


First of all glass roving is going to be stronger then nylon mesh so
using nylon is going to result in a weaker then normal laminate.

Second, epoxy resin is not going to bond extremely well to stainless
mesh so regardless of the strength of the stainless it may well not
contribute to the overall strength of the laminate.

Third, by using a combination of glass, carbon fiber and kevlar it is
possible to build laminates that are literally bullet proof.

Why bother with nylon or stainless?

Bruce in Bangkok
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:09:24 -0700, moreairguns.DeleteThis@icqmail.com wrote:

>Oh okay thanks for your inputs.
>
>"But the "pouring in resin" part makes me wonder what the heck you are
>thinking??? "
>sorry I didn't literally mean "pouring the resin" I just meant
>applying it (with a hand brush or squeegee)
>
>polyester resin doesn't bond well to glass sheets either, but it does
>to glass fibers.
>perhaps the resin would also adhere to thin nylon mesh or a rough
>surfaced wire mesh would.
>try applying resin to a nylon or wire mesh and I think it would still
>be difficult to separate the two.

>carbon fiber and kevlar is very expensive so I'm just thinking of the
>possible alternatives.
>
>it's just that metal is used to reinforce cement for structures and
>rubber in tires.
>
>just thinking out of the box.
>it may sound crazy to some people but it's still worth a try.
>
>Has anyone here ever tried doing that?


>On Oct 17, 8:27 pm, brucedpa....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:23:16 -0700, moreairg....DeleteThis@icqmail.com wrote:
>> >Hi!
>> >Can you use stainless steel wire mesh or nylon mesh to reinforce
>> >fiberglass?
>> >Has anyone ever tried doing so?
>>
>> >I was thinking perhaps after pouring the resin, I lay the glass fibers
>> >then the wire/nylon mesh, then repeat....
>>
>> >What do you think?
>>
>> First of all glass roving is going to be stronger then nylon mesh so
>> using nylon is going to result in a weaker then normal laminate.
>>
>> Second, epoxy resin is not going to bond extremely well to stainless
>> mesh so regardless of the strength of the stainless it may well not
>> contribute to the overall strength of the laminate.
>>
>> Third, by using a combination of glass, carbon fiber and kevlar it is
>> possible to build laminates that are literally bullet proof.
>>
>> Why bother with nylon or stainless?
>>
>> Bruce in Bangkok
>
It is difficult to understand what you are trying to do here.

Are you trying to build a GRP structure like a boat? Or are you trying
to make a repair in an already built structure?

Your statement that polyester doesn't stick well to glass sheets is
confusing. Do you mean previously laminated fiberglass structures or
an actual piece of glass?

If you are building a new fiberglass structure then glass roving and
chopped mat will produce a stronger structure then will nylon.

If you are trying to make a repair then polyester is not the material
to use.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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