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Since: Dec 28, 2007 Posts: 739
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:39 pm
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justwaitafrekinminute.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> HK wrote:
>>> justwaitafrekinmin....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>> JCHE....DeleteThis@HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
>>>>> - - -
>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>> Harry,
>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
> directly to his house... Just for the record...
Yes, but how do I know you are not lying to me?  >> Stay informed about: One small step for mankind... |
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Since: Jun 25, 2007 Posts: 3204
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:42 pm
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Eisboch wrote:
> "HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:63lk5uF289napU3@mid.individual.net...
>
>> justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>> name and real ISP.
>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>
>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>
>
> Heh. You realize, don't you Harry, that a picture you posted a while back
> of your Vista desktop clearly showed a shortcut to a program called, "Hide
> My ISP" ?
>
> Not being "snarky", but everytime you complain about anonymity I think of
> that image and program.
>
> Eisboch
>
>
So?
What's that got to do with my desire to end anonymous usenet posting?
Ending anonymous posting would make this a far more pleasant place,
though I'd bet real money at about a dozen of the snarkiest posters here
would find another hobby. >> Stay informed about: One small step for mankind... |
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Since: Jun 25, 2007 Posts: 3204
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:44 pm
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justwaitafrekinminute.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> HK wrote:
>>> justwaitafrekinmin....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>> JCHE....TakeThisOut@HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
>>>>> - - -
>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>> Harry,
>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
> directly to his house... Just for the record...
That's correct. There are quite a few people here with whom I have
exchanged "real" information. >> Stay informed about: One small step for mankind... |
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Since: Jun 25, 2007 Posts: 3204
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:46 pm
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justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 10, 6:39 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> justwaitafrekinmin....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> HK wrote:
>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>>> JCHE....RemoveThis@HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
>>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
>>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
>>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
>>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
>>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
>>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
>>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
>>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
>>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
>>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
>>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
>>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>>> Harry,
>>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
>>> directly to his house... Just for the record...
>> Yes, but how do I know you are not lying to me? - Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Guess you got me there;) How do you know I am not another sock puppet
> produced in the mind of our alledged Mr. Krause for that matter?
Yeah, that's the ticket! :>) >> Stay informed about: One small step for mankind... |
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Since: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 857
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:48 pm
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justwaitafrekinminute RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 10, 6:39 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> justwaitafrekinmin... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> HK wrote:
>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>>> JCHE... RemoveThis @HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
>>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
>>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
>>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
>>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
>>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
>>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
>>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
>>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
>>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
>>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
>>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
>>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>>> Harry,
>>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
>>> directly to his house... Just for the record...
>> Yes, but how do I know you are not lying to me? - Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Guess you got me there;) How do you know I am not another sock puppet
> produced in the mind of our alledged Mr. Krause for that matter?
I think Krause's fingers would would go stiff, his head would start
shaking and he would fall out of his chair if he had to type some of the
stuff you have typed. >> Stay informed about: One small step for mankind... |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:57 pm
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BAR wrote:
> justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Mar 10, 6:39 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> justwaitafrekinmin....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>>>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> HK wrote:
>>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>>>> JCHE....RemoveThis@HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting
>>>>>>>> anonymous
>>>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would
>>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name,
>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name
>>>>>>>> then would
>>>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined
>>>>>>>> $500
>>>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing
>>>>>>>> it. But
>>>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and
>>>>>>>> often untrue
>>>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding
>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my
>>>>>>>> district,
>>>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about
>>>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online
>>>>>>>> roasting,
>>>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its
>>>>>>>> own. It's
>>>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The
>>>>>>>> state can
>>>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do
>>>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's
>>>>>>>> a start.
>>>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full,
>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a
>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>>>> Harry,
>>>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you
>>>>> are,
>>>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone
>>>>> number is.
>>>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry
>>>>> Krause,
>>>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in
>>>>> UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
>>>> directly to his house... Just for the record...
>>> Yes, but how do I know you are not lying to me? - Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Guess you got me there;) How do you know I am not another sock puppet
>> produced in the mind of our alledged Mr. Krause for that matter?
>
> I think Krause's fingers would would go stiff, his head would start
> shaking and he would fall out of his chair if he had to type some of the
> stuff you have typed.
Damned close. >> Stay informed about: One small step for mankind... |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:11 pm
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"HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Eisboch wrote:
>> "HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:63lk5uF289napU3@mid.individual.net...
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>>> justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a
>>>>> start.
>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>
>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>
>>
>> Heh. You realize, don't you Harry, that a picture you posted a while
>> back of your Vista desktop clearly showed a shortcut to a program called,
>> "Hide My ISP" ?
>>
>> Not being "snarky", but everytime you complain about anonymity I think of
>> that image and program.
>>
>> Eisboch
>
>
> So?
>
> What's that got to do with my desire to end anonymous usenet posting?
> Ending anonymous posting would make this a far more pleasant place, though
> I'd bet real money at about a dozen of the snarkiest posters here would
> find another hobby.
This is not a smart ass question. Do you have a listed telephone number? If
not, why not? >> Stay informed about: One small step for mankind... |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:15 pm
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justwaitafrekinminute DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> HK wrote:
>>> justwaitafrekinmin... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>> JCHE... DeleteThis @HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
>>>>> - - -
>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>> Harry,
>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
> directly to his house... Just for the record...
PS - But if Harry's Law was applied to UseNet, Harry would have to let
everyone know that information, including the guy from Thailand living
in Canada, who took offense to Harry saying he was having incest with
his underage sister and pimping his underage sister. I think the guy
said he wanted to walk up to Harry's door late at night and have him say
that to his face, or something to that effect.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:20 pm
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D.Duck wrote:
> "HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:63lrraF28o0gvU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> "HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:63lk5uF289napU3@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>> justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a
>>>>>> start.
>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>>
>>> Heh. You realize, don't you Harry, that a picture you posted a while
>>> back of your Vista desktop clearly showed a shortcut to a program called,
>>> "Hide My ISP" ?
>>>
>>> Not being "snarky", but everytime you complain about anonymity I think of
>>> that image and program.
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>
>> So?
>>
>> What's that got to do with my desire to end anonymous usenet posting?
>> Ending anonymous posting would make this a far more pleasant place, though
>> I'd bet real money at about a dozen of the snarkiest posters here would
>> find another hobby.
>
> This is not a smart ass question. Do you have a listed telephone number? If
> not, why not?
>
>
I'm sorry, but I cannot divulge that sort of information, but I am more
than willing to criticize your choices, no matter what they are. If I
don't know anything about your choices, I'll look up criticisms on the
net and post those here, to make it look as if I know something.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:21 pm
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
> justwaitafrekinminute RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> HK wrote:
>>>> justwaitafrekinmin... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>> JCHE... RemoveThis @HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting
>>>>>> anonymous
>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would
>>>>>> require
>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often
>>>>>> untrue
>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding
>>>>>> behind
>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my
>>>>>> district,
>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about
>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online
>>>>>> roasting,
>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its
>>>>>> own. It's
>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do
>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a
>>>>>> start.
>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>> Harry,
>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in
>>> UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
>> directly to his house... Just for the record...
>
> PS - But if Harry's Law was applied to UseNet, Harry would have to let
> everyone know that information, including the guy from Thailand living
> in Canada, who took offense to Harry saying he was having incest with
> his underage sister and pimping his underage sister. I think the guy
> said he wanted to walk up to Harry's door late at night and have him say
> that to his face, or something to that effect.
>
> Now that would not be prudent.
>
>
>
>
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:24 pm
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HK wrote:
> Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
>> justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> HK wrote:
>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>>> JCHE....RemoveThis@HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting
>>>>>>> anonymous
>>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would
>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name,
>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name
>>>>>>> then would
>>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined
>>>>>>> $500
>>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing
>>>>>>> it. But
>>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often
>>>>>>> untrue
>>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding
>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my
>>>>>>> district,
>>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about
>>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online
>>>>>>> roasting,
>>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its
>>>>>>> own. It's
>>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do
>>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a
>>>>>>> start.
>>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a
>>>>>> political
>>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>>> Harry,
>>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number
>>>> is.
>>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in
>>>> UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
>>> directly to his house... Just for the record...
>>
>> PS - But if Harry's Law was applied to UseNet, Harry would have to let
>> everyone know that information, including the guy from Thailand living
>> in Canada, who took offense to Harry saying he was having incest with
>> his underage sister and pimping his underage sister. I think the guy
>> said he wanted to walk up to Harry's door late at night and have him
>> say that to his face, or something to that effect.
>>
>> Now that would not be prudent.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> If Harry's law applied to usenet, you wouldn't be here.
Yes, but you would not be here either, since I don't know which Harry
Krause you are, if you really are named Harry Krause. In fact, very few
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:32 pm
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
> HK wrote:
>> Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
>>> justwaitafrekinminute DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>>>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> HK wrote:
>>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>>>> JCHE... DeleteThis @HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting
>>>>>>>> anonymous
>>>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would
>>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name,
>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name
>>>>>>>> then would
>>>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined
>>>>>>>> $500
>>>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing
>>>>>>>> it. But
>>>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and
>>>>>>>> often untrue
>>>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding
>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my
>>>>>>>> district,
>>>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about
>>>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online
>>>>>>>> roasting,
>>>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its
>>>>>>>> own. It's
>>>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The
>>>>>>>> state can
>>>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do
>>>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's
>>>>>>>> a start.
>>>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full,
>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a
>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>>>> Harry,
>>>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you
>>>>> are,
>>>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone
>>>>> number is.
>>>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry
>>>>> Krause,
>>>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in
>>>>> UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
>>>> directly to his house... Just for the record...
>>>
>>> PS - But if Harry's Law was applied to UseNet, Harry would have to
>>> let everyone know that information, including the guy from Thailand
>>> living in Canada, who took offense to Harry saying he was having
>>> incest with his underage sister and pimping his underage sister. I
>>> think the guy said he wanted to walk up to Harry's door late at night
>>> and have him say that to his face, or something to that effect.
>>>
>>> Now that would not be prudent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> If Harry's law applied to usenet, you wouldn't be here.
>
> Yes, but you would not be here either, since I don't know which Harry
> Krause you are, if you really are named Harry Krause. In fact, very few
> if anyone who currently posts in rec.boats would be here
Oh, I'd be here, and so would lots of others. It would be a much
friendlier place, without posters whose only reason for being here was
to act snarky, or to criticize the boating decisions of others, without
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:36 pm
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aoWdnbiam-pqJUjanZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d@comcast.com...
> justwaitafrekinminute DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> HK wrote:
>>>> justwaitafrekinmin... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>> JCHE... DeleteThis @HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting
>>>>>> anonymous
>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would
>>>>>> require
>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often
>>>>>> untrue
>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding
>>>>>> behind
>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my
>>>>>> district,
>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about
>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online
>>>>>> roasting,
>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own.
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do
>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a
>>>>>> start.
>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>> Harry,
>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in
>>> UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> I know who he is, and could call him right now or send him a letter,
>> directly to his house... Just for the record...
>
> Yes, but how do I know you are not lying to me?
>
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:39 pm
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JimH wrote:
> "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aoWdnbiam-pqJUjanZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> justwaitafrekinminute.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 10, 6:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
>>> "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> HK wrote:
>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK <payer33....TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
>>>>>>> Anonymous Web postings targeted
>>>>>>> BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
>>>>>>> By John Cheves
>>>>>>> JCHE....TakeThisOut@HERALD-LEADER.COM
>>>>>>> A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting
>>>>>>> anonymous
>>>>>>> comments to Web sites.
>>>>>>> House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would
>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>> anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
>>>>>>> and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
>>>>>>> Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
>>>>>>> for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
>>>>>>> Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
>>>>>>> Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often
>>>>>>> untrue
>>>>>>> comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding
>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>> the cloak of anonymity.
>>>>>>> "Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my
>>>>>>> district,
>>>>>>> usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
>>>>>>> "When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about
>>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>>> and nobody knows who you are," he said.
>>>>>>> Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online
>>>>>>> roasting,
>>>>>>> and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
>>>>>>> legislature can do about it.
>>>>>>> "I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
>>>>>>> try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do
>>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>>> Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a
>>>>>>> start.
>>>>>>> I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
>>>>>>> name and real ISP.
>>>>>> Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
>>>>>> software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
>>>>>> access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
>>>>>> ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
>>>>> Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.
>>>> Harry,
>>>> Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
>>>> anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
>>>> there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
>>>> We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
>>>> or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
>>>> background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
>>>> what would you do differently when communicating with someone in
>>>> UseNet?- Hide quoted text -
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