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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:59 am
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| Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of paint
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:40 pm
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:59:46 -0800, "Robert or Karen Swarts"
<ravensrest RemoveThis @olypen.com> wrote:
>Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of paint
>(urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel coated
>hull?
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>Thanks,
>Bob Swarts
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I used a plain polyurethane "spar" varnish with UV inhibitors on the
topsides of a dull metal flake polyester glass hull, and on an old
plain polyester glass hull. Short term, the results are cosmetically
excellent.
Ask again in 2 years.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:23 pm
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Thanks, but I actually need to color the topsides.
BS
"Brian Whatcott" <betwys1 RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:59:46 -0800, "Robert or Karen Swarts"
> <ravensrest RemoveThis @olypen.com> wrote:
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>>Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of
>>paint
>>(urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel coated
>>hull?
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>>Thanks,
>>Bob Swarts
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> I used a plain polyurethane "spar" varnish with UV inhibitors on the
> topsides of a dull metal flake polyester glass hull, and on an old
> plain polyester glass hull. Short term, the results are cosmetically
> excellent.
> Ask again in 2 years.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:40 pm
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It depends entirely on your standards and expectations.
If you want the gloss and longevity of the original gelcoat and will do
a lot of work om the preparation, then two-part poluyrethane paint
(interthane, awlgrip) systems are the choice.
If gloss doesn't matter and you'll tolerate more rapid weatrhering and
lower scuff toughness, then the various urethane-modified alkyd
paints(Brightside, Toplac) will do.
If you want it to have a discenable color and weather well, acrylic
latex housepaint will do.
Epoxy paints are tough paints for garage floors. They don't weather
well. Easypoxy is not an epoxy.
Robert or Karen Swarts wrote:
>Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of paint
>(urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel coated
>hull?
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>Thanks,
>Bob Swarts
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:46 pm
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Interlux has a very good 'multi-media' presentation at :
http://www.yachtpaint.com.
They've a fairly new product which is intriguing: 'Perfection' a
two-part "hassle free" LPU. By this I mean the solvents / reducers are
'in the can', so all one has to do is mix and paint. (Compare this to
other two-part paints - including Interlux's legacy product 'Interthane
Plus', US Paint's 'Awlgrip' or Epifanes 'Poly-Urathane' - which require
the *precise* addition of solvents / reducers to insure proper
flow-out).
My experience is with the three products mentioned within the
parenthesis above. Of the three, Awlgrip was the easy winner.
Starting over today, I'd definitely give the 'Perfection' a try.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:19 am
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Latex house paint? I have used this on a plywood scow I built, and it worked
pretty well, but as an overcoat for fiberglass?
BS
"Jim Conlin" <conlin RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It depends entirely on your standards and expectations.
> If you want the gloss and longevity of the original gelcoat and will do a
> lot of work om the preparation, then two-part poluyrethane paint
> (interthane, awlgrip) systems are the choice.
> If gloss doesn't matter and you'll tolerate more rapid weatrhering and
> lower scuff toughness, then the various urethane-modified alkyd
> paints(Brightside, Toplac) will do.
> If you want it to have a discenable color and weather well, acrylic latex
> housepaint will do.
>
> Epoxy paints are tough paints for garage floors. They don't weather well.
> Easypoxy is not an epoxy.
> Robert or Karen Swarts wrote:
>
>>Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of
>>paint (urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel
>>coated hull?
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>>Thanks,
>>Bob Swarts
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:40 pm
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Robert or Karen Swarts wrote:
> Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of paint
> (urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel coated
> hull?
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> Thanks,
> Bob Swarts
two part polyurethane - sometimes known as LPU (polyester polyurethane) are
the best
next down are two part acrylic polyurethanes
urethanes often go over an epoxy primers as the weakest link with 2 part
urethanes is their bond.
another option is an enamel etc. tocoated/sealed with a clear 2 part
polyurethane.
2 part polys should cost $70-$110 or so per gallon - but if you buy by name
i.e. awlgrip expect to pay a lot more.
Paul Oman
progressive epoxy polymers
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a free trip around the Sun every year."
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Frog Pond Hollow - 48 Wildwood Dr
Pittsfield NH 03263
10-4 Monday-Thur EST 603-435-7199
VISA/MC/Discover/Paypal
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:32 pm
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Robert or Karen Swarts wrote:
>Latex house paint? I have used this on a plywood scow I built, and it worked
>pretty well, but as an overcoat for fiberglass?
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>BS
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>"Jim Conlin" <conlin.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>It depends entirely on your standards and expectations.
>>If you want the gloss and longevity of the original gelcoat and will do a
>>lot of work om the preparation, then two-part poluyrethane paint
>>(interthane, awlgrip) systems are the choice.
>>If gloss doesn't matter and you'll tolerate more rapid weatrhering and
>>lower scuff toughness, then the various urethane-modified alkyd
>>paints(Brightside, Toplac) will do.
>>If you want it to have a discenable color and weather well, acrylic latex
>>housepaint will do.
>>
>>Epoxy paints are tough paints for garage floors. They don't weather well.
>>Easypoxy is not an epoxy.
>>Robert or Karen Swarts wrote:
>>
>>
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>>>Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of
>>>paint (urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel
>>>coated hull?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Bob Swarts
>>>
>>>
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"Jim Conlin" <conlin.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It all depends on your standards. How low are they?
Depends. Are we still talking about boat paints?
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100%acrylic latex exterior house paint works beautifully over gel
coat. It can be touched up years after painting without the touchup
showing. Your local paint store can match any color.<br>
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Bob Swarts
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two part polyurethane - sometimes known as LPU (polyester polyurethane) are
the best
next down are two part acrylic polyurethanes
urethanes often go over an epoxy primers as the weakest link with 2 part
urethanes is their bond.
another option is an enamel etc. tocoated/sealed with a clear 2 part
polyurethane.
2 part polys should cost $70-$110 or so per gallon - but if you buy by name
i.e. awlgrip expect to pay a lot more.
Paul Oman
progressive epoxy polymers
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"Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include
a free trip around the Sun every year."
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Frog Pond Hollow - 48 Wildwood Dr
Pittsfield NH 03263
10-4 Monday-Thur EST 603-435-7199
VISA/MC/Discover/Paypal
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info@epoxyproducts.com">info@epoxyproducts.com</a>
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mike.e.worrall.DeleteThis@abc.com wrote:
> Interlux has a very good 'multi-media' presentation at :
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<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.yachtpaint.com.</font" target="_blank">http://www.yachtpaint.com.</font</a>>
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> They've a fairly new product which is intriguing: 'Perfection' a
> two-part "hassle free" LPU. By this I mean the solvents / reducers are
> 'in the can', so all one has to do is mix and paint. (Compare this to
> other two-part paints - including Interlux's legacy product 'Interthane
> Plus', US Paint's 'Awlgrip' or Epifanes 'Poly-Urathane' - which require
> the *precise* addition of solvents / reducers to insure proper
> flow-out).
>
> My experience is with the three products mentioned within the
> parenthesis above. Of the three, Awlgrip was the easy winner.
> Starting over today, I'd definitely give the 'Perfection' a try.
> Mike Worrall
> Los Angeles
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note that there are 2 part polyester polyurethanes and 2 part acrylic
polyurethanes and even mixes of both. All are LPUs.
All can be used straight of of the can - they already have solvent
(reducer) in them (unusually 40-65%). There are fast and slow reduces that
increase or decrease working brush time. With application temps ranging for
50 degrees or so to approaching 90, plus all the different types of spray
equipment and nozzles, most users will want to 'play' with additional
reducers to the LPU.
Note that 2 part LPU can be expensive - $65 - to about $110 per gallon
(unless you bend over and pay much much more for the name brands).
hope this helps.
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
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"Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include
a free trip around the Sun every year."
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PAUL OMAN Progressive Epoxy Polymers, Inc.
Frog Pond Hollow - 48 Wildwood Dr
Pittsfield NH 03263
10-4 Monday-Thur EST 603-435-7199
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>From: "Robert or Karen Swarts" ravensrest DeleteThis @olypen.com
>Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of paint
>(urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel coated
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Two part polyurethane.
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"LaBomba182" <labomba182.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of
paint
> >(urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel coated
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> Two part polyurethane.
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Twilk wrote:
> "LaBomba182" <labomba182 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> > >From: "Robert or Karen Swarts" ravensrest RemoveThis @olypen.com
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> > >Do any of you have suggestions or opinions regarding the best type of
> paint
> > >(urethane, epoxy, gel coat, etc) to refinish the topsides of a gel coated
> > >hull?
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> > Two part polyurethane.
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> > Capt. Bill
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If you go for 2 part polys (LPU coatings) Keep in mind there are 2 part acrylic
polyurethanes and 2 part polyester polyurethanes (sometimes the poly part is
omitted in the name). The polyester ones are a small notch up over the acrylic,
mostly in terms of chemical resistance. Priced in the $100 per gallon range and
up
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I posted to this before but messed it up. A lot depends on ther sklil level
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